Is Gemini still hiring

[EMB_driver2002]

Why are the current contracts "crew intensive"? How do you guys get paid for when you are getting into position? Thanks for the info...

 

[fogrunner]

Why are the current contracts "crew intensive"? How do you guys get paid for when you are getting into position? Thanks for the info...

Positioning crews throughout the system ie MXP-KWI-BOM-MAA-SAW-MXP would need 2 three man crews or 3 two man crews. The DC10 could do it with 4 pilots ie 2 crews. The 11 takes a minimum of 6 pilots to do this particular routeing





We get 1 for 4 DH commercial. 1 for 3 DH on our own a/c.

 

[Airbum]

That schedule is the reason I won't be applying. How can you even contemplate having a family life? 16 days is waaaaay too long. Sure, I know that Atlas has longer trips - something like 21-25 days in a row. I note that UPS doesn't have super long trips like that but it can be impossible to get on with UPS - that's the catch.

I had a 15 day month/pay period with 13 days off (UPS). Gone from home the entire time. Have had folks on my crew gone for 27 days in a row. (last contract), I believe now that the limit is somewhere in the low to mid 20 days gone at a time.

 

[HA25]

Kumar just called with my travel. Commercial to BOM on first leg this time, flying with two DC-10 transition FO's from the class behind us.
Who does Emerates code share with?
Waldo

While on the road last month I did:

MXP-MAA in business class no less than 3 times in the middle of my 15 days.

1st time, BA
2nd time, Emirates
3rd time, Air France

I opened up fresh milage cards for all 3 as I don't think you can get miles on UA or AA if you've originated the trips outside the US and the tickets were booked on those airlines, rather than AA or UA..

But yea, I managed to end the month with 62 hours in the back of the plane, and 31 in front.. Hope this is a temporary state while we crew up the fleet.

 

[HA25]

Wow that is a lot better than the real story. I have talked to the Captain and one of the f/os (there were two) and the loadmaster.
I am not going into specifics, however they were afforded local lawyers provided by the compay and also sort advice from the US Embassy. The Captain was in contact with the company during the majority of the ordeal. A dispatcher did lose his job over it, more of a scapegoat. The dispatch team is overworked and undermanned.

It was interesting to say the least hearing the story from the horses mouth that day in MAA that's for sure..

I think this CA btw.. has since moved on to Brown.

 

[Fedora]

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[HA25]

Hey Fog! I got t BOM minus my bags, courtesy of BA.

Join the club...

....went 4+ days with the same jeans, birkenstocks and had to take a pair of underware from the CA that's now at Brown to get by! We need to avoid BA if at all possible until they get their act together.

 

[dojetdriver]

Yes, he starts class at Brown on the 23rd. Move up another number,boys! It didn't affect me as I was a couple of numbers senior.
There are other Capts looking, however.
Hey Fog! I got t BOM minus my bags, courtesy of BA. I think my AA miles took as I started in the states. I may do the same and get cards for the other carriers for travel when over here.

Good grief. How do you start your 17 days with no bags? What do they expect you to do?

 

[Fedora]

Thanks for the concern, folks. I always travel with the valuables, razor, toothbrush, etc, and my medications with me.
BA did give me a debit card for 50 pounds and fortunately clothing is very inexpensive here in India.
Even better is that my bags arrived on the next flight and were fortunately delivered to my room just 4 hours before check out! Whew!
I kind of figured they would as my turn around time was just 25 minutes at LHR. I was greatful to the Captain for holing at the gate as I arived at the gate at pushback time. I realy didn't expect the bags to make the turn. Nice flight in business class on BA, but I agree, V70, they need to get the bag drag going better, not to mention better layover times. The map on their site says allow 60 minutes to go from T4 arrival gates to T4 departure gates.

 

[Fedora]

What do they expect you to do?

Handle it, handle it, handle it! That's the life of a freight dog, I'm afraid.
We are very much autonomous when we operate on the road.

 

[fogrunner]

I don't think you can get miles on UA or AA if you've originated the trips outside the US and the tickets were booked on those airlines, rather than AA or UA..

Not true....

 

[M.86]

What's the recommended procedure to apply at GAC. Send to corporate? Fax? Ect. And who's the person to address your resume to? Are they doing any roadshows (i.e., AIR, Inc)?

Thanks for the feedback

 

[EMB_driver2002]

How does reserve work at GAC?

 

[Rook]

What's the recommended procedure to apply at GAC. Send to corporate? Fax? Ect. And who's the person to address your resume to? Are they doing any roadshows (i.e., AIR, Inc)?

Thanks for the feedback

I cold mailed my stuff in to CA Matt Albers (C.P.)Didn't know a soul there. But guys like Fedora and Fogrunner have been great at setting expectations and answering questions on any subject.

Good luck!

 

[Fedora]

Here's some info I googled up: (try it)

http://www.bestaviation.net/jobs/airline.asp?ID=24

Having help from the inside can be a factor, but not a requirement. I know of one of our new hires who is fresh from the military and didn't know anyone at Gemini.
Competition is tough, and one of our last class's experience level was between 4500 and 14000 hours. I believe the minimum is 3000 tt with 1500 PIC turbine (help me here, Fog, I don't have my FOPM.)

Here's the Corporate HQ address to mail a resume in: (Attn: Chief Pilot)
Gemini Air Cargo
44965 Aviation Drive Suite 300
Washington Dulles Int'l Airport
Dulles, VA 20166

Switchboard - 888-FLY-GAC1

Right now we are hiring to replace attrition, so there's not much chance of advancement unless we start buying aircraft, but who knows in this business? Just toss your fedoras in the ring and see what happens. Just remember the folks who are leaving are going because the "other guys" are hiring too. If you need to build time, we probably average around 600-650 hours per year here. A good RJ job will net you about 1000/year.

Hey V70T5, how about giving them an idea of what it's like from a new guy viewpoint now that you're flying the line?

Good luck in all your endeavors,
Waldo

 

[tjsatter]

On Paper they want 1000 Turbine PIC but not having this need not be an obstacle, you can turn it into an advantage because if you don't have it you are not likely to bale on them and go to FedEx/UPS the day after you get your type rating. I've heard that some DC10 FE s have been able to move into the right seat of the MD11 with not much more than a commercial/Instrument/MEL license

tj

 

[HA25]

Hey V70T5, how about giving them an idea of what it's like from a new guy viewpoint now that you're flying the line?

Good luck in all your endeavors,
Waldo

IOE went great... we did the fish run and the YYZ-FRA-R a couple of times and for the most part it went smoothly, and the flying was not at all a serious challenge. My last trip however was a fiasco from the get go.. much of it out of anyones' hands.. partly due to the bags, partly due to my accepting a layover that was far too short before operating, and partly because the company is SO short on people that I (and others) spent far more time in the back of a plane than in the front. I hope it's not representative of a typical trip, but then it just may well be the way things are heading now.

I sent in my passport to Matt to get me China added so I can add a bit to my options, and I tried all I could to bid for hard lines with known flying next month, but being 45 out of 58 (some of those junior to me, not yet bidding), it's not looking too good (for now). At the rate we are hiring however, I expect by the end of the year to be as relatively senior as Fog which I must say is a nice thing to have. For a while though seniority didn't mean much it seemed with all the lines being (R) and therefore you were only bidding days off.. Heck I just flew with the famous (and very senior) Johnny Mac the other day... how does a brand new guy fly with JM?

 

[HA25]

Not true....

we already discussed this, but it's all about which segment, and how the ticket is booked.. call the clubs and they'll explain (to anyone now following me).

 

[Fedora]

I've heard that some DC10 FE s have been able to move into the right seat of the MD11 with not much more than a commercial/Instrument/MEL license

That's apples and oranges, I'm afraid. That is an in house program for Gemini aircrew members, and admitedly a great opportunity for our FE employees.
Don't expect to walk in with 300 hours in your logbook and be hired into an MD-11 seat. As far as I know the minimum time for new hires is still 3000tt. Still not sure on the PIC.

 

[HA25]

That's apples and oranges, I'm afraid. That is an in house program for Gemini aircrew members, and admitedly a great opportunity for our FE employees.
Don't expect to walk in with 300 hours in your logbook and be hired into an MD-11 seat. As far as I know the minimum time for new hires is still 3000tt. Still not sure on the PIC.

And these guys are EARNING it... I hear the bust rate is more then 80%.... so far the two that recently went thru I understand needed additional training. I think it's quite stand up of GAC to do this btw.. those guys have a lot of 121 cockpit experience, just not the stick time, and I think if some are up to the challenge and capable, it's great to give them the shot.