Is Frontier Still Hiring Pilots?

[bluejuice787]

Anyone?

Juice

 

[terryhfly]

I believe that we are interviewing twice next month.

 

[StaySeated]

I don't know if the interviews are still happening, but do some research before you jump over. F9 still has an fantastic group of pilots and great schedules/flexibility, but our balance sheet is frightening.

lowlights of the last quarter:

Delayed/canceled upgrade class
Delayed delivery of 320's
Planned loss of $20Million this quarter
100 layoffs at the GO(HQ)
Reduction in flying in Dec of approx. 3%

Lynx is finally up and running, but only after draining $25Million from F9 Holdings. How long will it take for 10 Q400's to generate $25Million? The answer to that question is another question. Why would the company spend $25 million to start a holding company and then start another op certificate? Answer, Lynx will be flying 20+ EMB170/175 by 2010. Just conjecture on my part, but eventually Holdings will feed itself and there will be no more fee for departure agreements with republic, ex jet, horizon, et al. On paper, the lynx abomination isn't such a bad idea, except if you are a frontier pilot hoping to progress up the seniority list.

Frontier is a great place to work, I just hope the "great place" continues to exist.

 

[sluggo]

Frontier is a great place to work while your looking for another job...

 

[flyboy2004]

Is there any truth to a rumor I heard that Frontier is asking for a volentary leave of absense for some of the pilots?

 

[climb2slow]

every year for the past 4-5 years, there are a few months out of the year that the company offers voluntary leaves....usually in jan and feb...and sometimes in late summer...it gives them some flexiblity with schedules and staffing, and they are always voluntary...they usually go very senior as we have quite a few pilots who have seconds gigs going and can use the time off. I wouldn't judge the company or hiring by this.

 

[flyboy2004]

Ok that's cool just curious. I didn't know anything about that.

 

[USMC319]

Frontier is a great place to work while your looking for another job...

Good luck with that.

 

[sluggo]

Good luck with that.

What do you mean? Like F9 is the all-encompassing job? The opportunities are endless! Are you kidding?

Its a great place, but not for everyone...Denver, come on bro!

 

[flyboy2004]

What I think is funny is how bitter people can get

 

[AceCrackshot]

Lynx is finally up and running, but only after draining $25Million from F9 Holdings. How long will it take for 10 Q400's to generate $25Million? The answer to that question is another question. Why would the company spend $25 million to start a holding company and then start another op certificate? Answer, Lynx will be flying 20+ EMB170/175 by 2010. Just conjecture on my part, but eventually Holdings will feed itself and there will be no more fee for departure agreements with republic, ex jet, horizon, et al. On paper, the lynx abomination isn't such a bad idea, except if you are a frontier pilot hoping to progress up the seniority list.

Frontier is a great place to work, I just hope the "great place" continues to exist.

Well, Lynx will allow F9 to get some premium tickets to SBS, ASE, JAC and EGE that to date it has been leaving on the table. It will also allow F9 to zero yield a number of cities that WN now flies like ABQ.

Both being under Frontier Holdings gives the F9 pilot a bunch of leverage to integrate Lynx further, to avoid a whipsaw.

Now the Republic E170s are another matter entirely. They are currently boiling the F9 pilot group, frog style.

The only difference between the 170 and 318 is a few seats, two expensive pilots, and IFE. During the next industry retrenchment, expect an annoucement that IFE will be installed in the 170s, and all future 318/19/20 will postponed.

The Mainline part of F9 will be going to Mexico and Costa Rica, and maybe Florida and NY.

The F9 guys need to scope Republic now, or they won't have a job in five years.

 

[AceCrackshot]

oops.

Doubletap

 

[D-Bo]

Both being under Frontier Holdings gives the F9 pilot a bunch of leverage to integrate Lynx further, to avoid a whipsaw.

Exactly how? I don't see what you're trying to point out. Where does this leverage come from? Yes, Lynx is under the same umbrella but on a separate certificate and seniority list. Where does this leverage you speak of come from. If they had leverage and wished to even try to use it then Lynx wouldn't be under a separate certificate and and list in the first place.

 

[D-Bo]

The F9 guys need to scope Republic now

Too late.

 

[D-Bo]

Well, Lynx will allow F9 to get some premium tickets to SBS, ASE, JAC and EGE that to date it has been leaving on the table. It will also allow F9 to zero yield a number of cities that WN now flies like ABQ.

When will Lynx start flying to those places? It will be interesting to see how that plays out. UAL already flies A320s and 757s into JAC and EGE, GUC, and even KMTJ occasionally. Amr flies 757s into most of those towns too. I also just noticed UAL is starting to fly 757s into ABQ along with the 320s. I'd like to see how the Lynx Q400 does against the 320s, 737s, and 757s at mainline UAL, SWA, and AMR.