Inside info on FedEx pilot hiring

[C-17->Majors]

Not hiring furloughed...

Considered a risk= furloughed or not a checkairman, that's pretty harsh. I thought Fedex was ALPA? If so how come no help from ALPA on putting fellow brothers and sisters back in the cockpit?

Please review previous posts on this topic. I think things have been well explained in the past.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Hey, way to go Goose!! My FedEx bud confirms all. It is the real deal.

For those wanting the $50 back...Yeah it sucks but keep in contact with ALL flying buds, one may end up at FedEx or UPS because THEY had a sponsor. Then you will too.


Don't forget your FE written. It will be hard for a sponsor to explain why you don't have one.


Furloughed Guys and Gals. I hear you can get in if you and your sponsor do and say the right things. Perhaps persistance is the key. I wish all furloughs well, don't give up.

 

[stillflyn]

I wish I knew that FedEx didn't hire "furloughed" "line pilots" before I sent my $50 in. I think I just want it back.

 

[USNFDX]

I wish I knew that FedEx didn't hire "furloughed" "line pilots" before I sent my $50 in. I think I just want it back.

Furloughees are being called. I know that for a fact. Not just USAIR guys either. It will require Some serious pull.....but that is no different than for anyone else right now.


Stillflyn

If you contact pilot hiring, and explain to them that you are a furloughee, and want your money back, I'll bet they refund it.

 

[bluefin]

Mr. 17, can you explain the past? I can't seem to find what you are talking about. Are you referring to past furloughed pilots being hired and returning to their previous employers? The past is that, the past. The industry has changed, this is not the past, it is now.

 

[flyguppy]

4. Only sponsor zero-risk pilots. Pilots have “risks” if: they have weak or negative
recommendations; they are minimally qualified regarding total, PIC, or recency of experience flight
times; they do not have additional aviation skills (instructor, evaluator, management, etc.); there
is some concern regarding their experience level or compatibility with FedEx Flight Operations;
they are currently employed or furloughed by another major airline..

I'm sorry, but the above is a f*&$ing joke. You're a risk if you are currently employed at another major airline?

Sorry I didn't have your measly 1000 jet PIC. Sorry I was fortunate enough to get hired by a major at a young age.

I've been a Captain at a major for going on 2 years. I want to make a move. I want to fly for FedEx.

I'm a risk? P-f*&^ing-lease.

I want my $50 back too.

 

[TonyC]

I'm sorry, but the above is a f*&$ing joke. You're a risk if you are currently employed at another major airline?

Sorry I didn't have your measly 1000 jet PIC. Sorry I was fortunate enough to get hired by a major at a young age.

I've been a Captain at a major for going on 2 years. I want to make a move. I want to fly for FedEx.

I'm a risk? P-f*&^ing-lease.

I want my $50 back too.

With that kind of attitude, we don't want you!







ooops, sorry, I gave you the Jetblue answer by mistake. DOH!







Seriously... We're just as frustrated as you, and I for one hope somebody will buy a clue and get back to reality. While I can understand the fundamental principle underlying the philosophy, I believe they've gone overboard. We don't want to foot the training bill and put food on the table of a guy or gal that's just looking for a place to weather an economic storm before they return to their "real" first choice. One acknowledgement of reality is the exception to USAir furloughees - - they're basically treated like any other non-furloughed, not-employed-by-a-major pilot. Anybody that thinks a current USAir Captain that seeks emplyment with FedEx to be a risk needs a reality check, and that's exactly what they're doing.

If you're the real deal, don't get discouraged, and don't give up. Hopefully the rules will change, or be relaxed to something that better fits reality.


Good Luck!

 

[sandman2122]

Make it happen!

Here's an idea:

How about the furloughed guys that already have their applications in get their sponsors to schedule a meeting with J.L. via the pre-interview procedure.

The more this happens there's a possibility that FedEx will change the current hiriing policy......vs. nothing will change the policy if sponsors don't even make an attempt.

Can't hurt to try..

 

[PanelApe]

zero-risk pilots

Perhaps the reason pilots employed by other airlines are under that category is because of the same old "flight risk". The same old argument....hire a furloughed ____________ pilot (American, Delta, etc......) and you risk having them leave when they get called back.

To the flight management that is a risk associated with hiring a furloughed guy.....they've been bitten before and did not like it.

Don't mean to beat that dead pony.....

PanelApe

"Any of you HOMOS touch my stuff....I'll kill ya"
"Any of you HOMOS call me Francis....I'll kill ya"
Bottom Line......Lighten up Francis

 

[6Pak]

Suggestion Box for the disenchanted:
Address a letter directly to Jack Lewis, Chief Pilot, Fedex, Democrat Road AOC, Memphis, TN, 38194, send your social and a quick note telling him you want your $50 back. You deserve it, and I'm sure he will understand and take the appropriate action.
Suggestion Box for FedEx Employees:
don't gloss over the end of the email: "we all signed a form when we got hired saying that we would protect the confidentiality of the Pilot Interview Process". hate to be the party pooper but be careful out there, these are strange times and your ACPs will be happy to "help" you if they see any chance to shine.
Merry Christmas!

 

[FedEx]

Hey Flyguppy,
With an attitude like that, we don't want you. I forked over HUNDREDS of $$$ to the major's just hopeing for interview. $100 American, $50 United, $75 Northwest, $100 Delta(UPAS). I didn't ask each one of them for my money back, should have. Never got one call from any of them. Thank God!!!!!!!
Just like you said, you were LUCKY to get on with a Major at such a young age and you are even a CAPTAIN. Sounds fishy to me why you would want to leave. I don't think I know one Captain at a MAJOR that would give all that up and start all over at the bottom. If you are one of them, go see JL, I am sure he would talk to you.
Good Luck

 

[Sluggo_63]

I think what he meant was...

It's pretty lousy of FedEx to collect $50 from the thousands of furloughees who put apps in, with FedEx knowing before hand that not one of them would be called.

The "No-furlough" clause should have been on the front page of their Pilot App website.

How much did FedEx collect from guys that didn't stand a chance.

Sluggo

P.S. I paid my $50 on the off chance that they would change their mind, and I have no problem with it.

 

[TonyC]

Hey Flyguppy,
With an attitude like that, we don't want you. I forked over HUNDREDS of $$$ to the major's just hopeing for interview. $100 American, $50 United, $75 Northwest, $100 Delta(UPAS). I didn't ask each one of them for my money back, should have. Never got one call from any of them. Thank God!!!!!!!
Just like you said, you were LUCKY to get on with a Major at such a young age and you are even a CAPTAIN. Sounds fishy to me why you would want to leave. I don't think I know one Captain at a MAJOR that would give all that up and start all over at the bottom. If you are one of them, go see JL, I am sure he would talk to you.
Good Luck

DISCLAIMER: The above post is not representative of the majority of pilots who fly airplanes at FedEx.

Please observe the disgruntlement (is that a word?) in the above post, and take the "advice" with the commensurate dose of salt.


Good luck to all the hopefuls.

 

[TonyC]

It's pretty lousy of FedEx to collect $50 from the thousands of furloughees who put apps in, with FedEx knowing before hand that not one of them would be called.

The "No-furlough" clause should have been on the front page of their Pilot App website.

I agree. However, I was not consulted during the design of the webpage. Use it as a way of getting a taste of the company you're asking to work for.

P.S. I paid my $50 on the off chance that they would change their mind, and I have no problem with it.

That's the approach I would have taken, too, and I would vigorously challenge the practice. Find a sponsor (surely of the 4300 you must know at least one) and get that sponsor to go to bat for you.

I know one thing for sure, it will not change unless there is pressure to change it. Pile it on, folks.

 

[Goose17]

on the defensive...

I don't think FedEx tries to make money by collecting $50 from pilot applicants that don't have a chance of getting a call. First off, FedEx is making a ton of money and adding your $50 isn't going to do anything. Secondly, during periods of no interviews, FedEx closed the online web site to prevent people from paying $50 when there wasn't any interviews happening. They could have simply left the site open if they wanted to collect your $50.

As for guys out there feeling stiffed, like posted above. This company had been burned by your predecessors. When the major pax carriers were furloughing years ago, FedEx hired some off the street. Many of them promised their loyalty to FedEx only to have them jump ship and flee back to their old seniority number. You know the saying... fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

FedEx has not listed a no-furlough statement on the app. Why? Because we do hire SOME furloughed pilots. But lets face it. The pond is FULL of fish. You can be very selective in today's market as a pilot employer.

Bottom line. If you want a chance with FedEx, pay your $50 and do anything and everything mentioned in the email above. If you don't think you have a chance, go buy $50 worth of beer and have a good weekend.

Good luck to all those whom are interested.

Goose17