Independence urged to revive UAL relationship

[Mugs]

hey smart guy,

remember that little corporate takeover a year or so ago??

yeah, that didn't go so well and the pilots were a big part of it.

independence pilots are a unified bunch and would rather die on our feet than live bent over. (you probably know about being bent over, being a jarhead though right?)

So the "Kill United" chants at the company pep rallies will continue then?

 

[furloughed]

IMO,


I find it sad that an airline pilot (well, perhaps at the "regional" level) couldn't transition to another job (yes even one outside of aviation) that would pay approximately the same (25-40 thousand?). The past several years has been a wake-up call. You best have a back-up plan in case the business fails. That applies to all but especially to us. Just as I'm to proud to vote for a concession, you certainly wouldn't find me in front of the unemployment office.

--Sky

You have the fortunate position of having three years of devastating airline finacials to help everyone realize this. I didn't. I was hired by a major in July 2001 and finished IOE on the morning of September 11th. I was furloughed October 1st. I had less than three weeks from the 11th to October 1st and less than two weeks notice from them that I was actually getting axed on the 1st ( I knew it was coming just didn't expect it so soon). I don't care who you are, unless you are already doing something else on the side finding another job that pays 40,000 takes longer than the time I had, especially considering I worked right up until the day I was let go. It was necessary to collect Unemployment for three months until I found another job so I could at least keep my house. So even though your ego won't allow you to collect unemployment it was a life saver to the thousands of pilots who were furloughed right after 9-11. I suppose the same would go for senior pilots at a company that suddenly goes Chapter 7 and liquidates.

I agree with you though about people furloughed today. It is hard to believe it is over three years later and people are still being furloughed. To hear many of them talk it is like they were surprised or that they didn't think it could happen to them.

 

[House_X]

What is it with you people? You all think you know everything. "You better go back to United or you'll cease existing!" Do you honestly think that going back to UAL is the best thing for FLYi??? They are Bankrupt and have been for 2 years. They have NO sound business plan. Oh yeah TED is great. Esp now that they are out trying to find the "voice of TEd" Give me a break. The only plan they have is to continue to slash their loyal employees' benefits. What makes this such a good deal? Maybe a couple years of revenue. Then UAL either is gone, or tries to phase out ACA again. I dont think so. I would rather risk failure as FlyI than be guaranteed eventual failure as United Express.

Mr big investment man should crawl back under the little hole he came from. Just as we resisted MESA Im sure you will see a firm stance by the FLYi Pilot group aganist any attempt to reunite w/ UAL. The only good deal that can come out of this is for concurrent operations (as in keeping a good Independence Air operation separate from the pathetic farce known as UAL Express) I will take no more concessions to aid my company in bidding for this flying. It's time to take a stand.

I'm with you....and there are many at our organization that feel the same way you do. The rumors are flying around dulles like wildfire...I can't even keep up with it. I see no long term benefit to going back to UAL. Can you imagine what the morale would be like? And you better believe UA is going to ask for cuts...

As far as the comment about "feeding your family" from others...we can find better ways to feed our families than be an abused UAX pilot. I'd rather be furloughed and stick it out with FlyI than be doomed to fly an RJ for the rest of my life for UAX, who beats down contract companies on the price and pits pilot groups against each other.

No thanks. Long live FlyI!!!

 

[AirBoard]

At least it won't cost a lot to repaint when they rename it again.

They can just paint over the "IN"

I think if we just use a garden hose the new paint job should just wash away revealing the old livery. The company got a great deal on the paint job and ya get what ya pay for.

Resume updated.

 

[WhiteCloud]

Independence Air has received a stern letter from its largest shareholder, demanding that the company revive a relationship with its former partner, United Air, to stave off bankruptcy, according to a published report Wednesday.

Shares of Independence Air (FLYI: news, chart, profile) rose 2 cents to close at $2.07 on Wednesday.

What's all this letter writing crap anyway? Just sell off the shares and move on.

 

[Indypilot]

So, would you rather walk around with some cuts and bruises, with the ability to get stiches, maybe amputate a finger or two and stay alive in the long term,


Or


Would you rather have no injuries and watch as out of the blue the sword comes highlander style and takes you head off with no chance of survival.

I think I'll take the first.