Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Why do you say that?Do you mean in place of a union? That would be a very bad idea.
Why do you say that?
ok, but i' m sure there are companies out there where committees worked just fine. Remember, the companies you mentioned are large and stable companies. (compared to Colgan) With the high turnover at Colgan, ALPA wouldn't really work. All we really need is the ability to speak as one. We can do that ourselves. Any step towards unification at Colgan is a good step. It just may work.Take a look at Skywest's SAPA or JetBlue's Pilot Compensation Committee (I think that's what they call it). These two groups have absolutely no power, zero leverage, and therefore produce no results. Management still gives you whatever they want, because the independent "negotiating committee" has no real backing. The Skywest pilots ended up with a 1.5% raise for jet pilots, no raise at all for Brasilia pilots, and a very meager override on block-time for the 70- & 90-seaters. The JetBlue pilots were so upset at the raises that came for the EMB-190 and the complete lack of raises for the Airbus pilots that they now have a group of pilots meeting with ALPA to get an organizing drive started.
If you want any control over your career at all, you need a union. I hope you choose ALPA, but any union is better than none at all.
ok, but i' m sure there are companies out there where committees worked just fine.
Remember, the companies you mentioned are large and stable companies. (compared to Colgan) With the high turnover at Colgan, ALPA wouldn't really work.
All we really need is the ability to speak as one. We can do that ourselves. Any step towards unification at Colgan is a good step. It just may work.
Doesn't Southwest have this committee? and we have some ex-Chicago Express guys that had a committee that worked great for them.Please cite an example. I can't think of a single case. It didn't work at the aforementioned companies because the concept is faulty.
ALPA provides a support structure that allows small pilot groups with high turnover to continue to provide quality representation. Also, please remember that your company is stable, and the holding company is quite large with over a billion in revenue from it's two subsidiaries. Colgan is no longer a tiny airline squeaking by on razor-thin margins.
These sorts of "committees" don't provide you any real unification. In reality, there isn't anything to unify behind. The committee has no teeth, so most pilots quickly lose faith and the situation becomes even worse than before because the pilots start in-fighting. The only way to unify and solve your problems together is to bring a union onto the property. Why not the biggest pilots' union on the planet that can provide resources and expertise that no one else can?
Doesn't Southwest have this committee? and we have some ex-Chicago Express guys that had a committee that worked great for them.
Everyone seems to be generalizing the issues. ALPA may work great at Pinnacle but that doesn't mean they'll work for us.
Interacting with the Colgans is not as difficult as people make it out to be.