In flight satelite WX

[Diesel]

Thanks it sounds like the antenna is the normal size. When i first got xm the antenna was the size of a brick. Now they are real small and compact. That's great. I've installed xm in all my cars and even carry a myfi.

I'll be ordering the setup on monday and hope it comes before friday. I'm still deciding which subscription to get... Is the 49 dollar one worth it? We only fly 4 times a month if that but would like to have all the info we can get. Do you really use all the info?

 

[SabreFlyR]

Thanks it sounds like the antenna is the normal size. When i first got xm the antenna was the size of a brick. Now they are real small and compact. That's great. I've installed xm in all my cars and even carry a myfi.

I'll be ordering the setup on monday and hope it comes before friday. I'm still deciding which subscription to get... Is the 49 dollar one worth it? We only fly 4 times a month if that but would like to have all the info we can get. Do you really use all the info?

We use the radar, strikes and metar/taf the most, but the rest of it comes in handy for us at times. In the scheme of things for us the extra $ didn't make much difference.

 

[bigD]

Diesel - we're on the 49.99 subscription, although I tend to spend most of my time using the radar. Knowing the tops of the storms is nice, which doesn't appear to be available on the 29.99 option. With the money the company spends to fly the plane to begin with, I think the extra twenty bucks a month tends to get lost in the noise.

I wasn't around when the plane got fitted with this (I've only been flying it for a few months), but I've heard that the installation was very easy.

 

[Diesel]

Yeah you're right i'll go with the 49 dollar option. It wasn't the price that was the worry just how much did you use the features.

I'm just sitting here waiting till monday when I can order the stuff. I'm going to have have the avionics shop wire up connection behind the seat.

One question though. Sorry.

On the website it shows a bluetooth GPS. I'm guessing that's a gps only bluetooth antenna it's not XM too? The XM antenna would be wired and is about the size of a 50 cent piece. They don't have any bluetooth XM antennas do they? Wire's drive me nuts.

 

[bigD]

On the website it shows a bluetooth GPS. I'm guessing that's a gps only bluetooth antenna it's not XM too? The XM antenna would be wired and is about the size of a 50 cent piece. They don't have any bluetooth XM antennas do they? Wire's drive me nuts.

I'm going to have to go out to the airplane to see exactly how it's set up - I haven't really taken a good look at the installation. My understanding is that there are two Bluetooth enabled receivers - one for the XM weather, and one for the GPS. The Bluetooth is what allows both the GPS and XM weather data to be transmitted to a tablet PC without any wires - it can't be used to eliminate antenna wires for the receivers.

Tomorrow I'm going to search for some answers on my particular setup. All I know is that there are *no* visible wires anywhere in the plane, and I do know that the receivers are wired directly into the aircraft power. Unclear is how we're dealing with the antennas. I've been told it's hard wired there too, but I don't know how that's being done.

 

[bigD]

Sorry I can't give you better answers Diesel - normally the geek in me would insist on knowing everything there is to know about this stuff. But with only a little more than a hundred hours in an airplane that's a good step up in what I was flying before - I haven't given a whole lot of thought on how this setup was implemented. I've been more focused on avoiding becoming a smoking hole.

 

[SabreFlyR]

On the website it shows a bluetooth GPS. I'm guessing that's a gps only bluetooth antenna it's not XM too? The XM antenna would be wired and is about the size of a 50 cent piece. They don't have any bluetooth XM antennas do they? Wire's drive me nuts.

The bluetooth gps is just that, a gps receiver to provide the WX Worx (XM) on your pc gps info and is seperate from the XM antenna. It'll be interesting to find out if there really is an option to wire the external XM antenna to the bluetooth receiver, just to get rid of 1 more wire in the cockpit and alleviate the reception problem I have in the Northeast.
In todays world of flying, the one feature I like the most aside from the radar is the graphical depiction of tfr's. We escaped hurricane Rita from Louisiana to Aspen this weekend and it was nice to see these laid out graphically in the cockpit on the way home considering there are tfr's from Galveston to the Mobile area.

 

[Diesel]

cool thanks

 

[bigD]

SabreFlyR - I did some research today and found that we got the XM antenna from DAC Avionics ( http://www.dacint.com/ ). It's TSO'd, and apparently is designed specifically for the WxWorx receiver, so it includes everything you need for the install. Therefore, any avionics shop should be able to do it.

 

[SabreFlyR]

SabreFlyR - I did some research today and found that we got the XM antenna from DAC Avionics ( http://www.dacint.com/ ). It's TSO'd, and apparently is designed specifically for the WxWorx receiver, so it includes everything you need for the install. Therefore, any avionics shop should be able to do it.

Thanks Big D, I am talking with DAC now to see what the scoop is. It's amazing that the installer didn't seem to know what was going on with regard to this system. They are one of the top vote getters in the annual Pro Pilot survey.
I think they were just upset I elceted to display the weather on an efb rather than buy a 40K+ mfd to be installed.

 

[Diesel]

I'm currently working on the setup right now. Having the avionics company install the 12v outlet behind the CoPilots seat when i get back off this trip.

One question for you guys that use this. Why didn't you go with the WxWorx progam. I saw that anywheremap sell the WxWorx hardware but uses it's own software. They don't even take the WxWorx off of the router.

So why choose Anywheremap over WxWorx since the only difference is a software issue? I know it's an odd question but i figure if one company is offering a better software package I'd like to know.

Also anybody having any luck finding an XM AND GPS bluetooth antenna? That would be perfect but so far no luck.

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[Diesel]

Ahhh i think i figured out the difference. Anywheremap is a maping and flight following solution. WxWorx is just the weather.

So here is the question. We are currently running Jeppsen Flight Deck without the GPS. Would you reccomend using the anywheremap even though we have approach charts and enroute charts. or would you recomend just buying WxWorx for the weather and switching between the two?

Ahhh the power of technology. Personally i see good points and bad points with both systems.

Update- Talked to anywhere map and and they are a pretty neat company. They did bring up an interesting point. You can have a bluetooth gps reciever or a bluetooth xmwx router. But having both doesn't work with some tablets and systems. Anybody use both at the same time?

 

[Diesel]

found this gem http://forum.anywheremap.com/index.php

 

[LJ45]

Wow!

Lots of info on that link, Thanks. I have a USB GPS that I will try next week and let you know if it works on the Lear 45.

Thanks for all the info!

 

[SabreFlyR]

Ahhh i think i figured out the difference. Anywheremap is a maping and flight following solution. WxWorx is just the weather.

So here is the question. We are currently running Jeppsen Flight Deck without the GPS. Would you reccomend using the anywheremap even though we have approach charts and enroute charts. or would you recomend just buying WxWorx for the weather and switching between the two?

Ahhh the power of technology. Personally i see good points and bad points with both systems.

Update- Talked to anywhere map and and they are a pretty neat company. They did bring up an interesting point. You can have a bluetooth gps reciever or a bluetooth xmwx router. But having both doesn't work with some tablets and systems. Anybody use both at the same time?[/quote]

We're using the ADR FG-4000 efb with WX Worx software for XM weather and Jeppview. They're right the gps will only feed one at a time, typically we have the gps linked to the XM. We have an Argus 7000 hooked to the Gnsxls so it's not imperitive for us to have gps on the jepp chart for situational awareness.
I haven'y looked at what Anywhere map has, but the WxWorx has a map on it with updates offered on their website.