Impending Pilot shortage

[House_X]

Yes, the "flight attendant" is picking up a pen floating in space from a passenger. She puts it back into his vest pocket... Guess I'm a geek, too...

thread hijacking in progress...

Yep and the ship they were on was called an Orion with a PAN-AM logo....nice glass cockpit too for a film made in 1968...

I'm a big Kubrick fan...think it's time to fire up the ole "Clockwork Orange" and head down to the corova milk bar for a little "in-out-in-out"....

back to our original programming...

 

[coloneldan]

I agree with most of the posts here. There will never be a pilot shortage as long as there are idiot pilots around who will fly for nothing, and idiot owners/department managers/chief pilots who will let them. I was in BHM several years ago and this lineguy walked up to me. He told me he had a commercial-multi-instrument and he would fly with me for free, just to get the time. I almost hit him. I got him away from everybody else and told him if he wanted to fly with somebody who didn't need a co-pilot for free, that was fine. If they needed a co-pilot and he didn't charge for it he was screwing me, himself and everybody else who was trying to make a living aviation.

On the other side of it, I interviewed for a job flying a Citation several years ago. The job should have paid in the neighborhood of $60,000. When the subject of pay and benefits came up, the guy told me he was willing to go as high as $25,000, and he wanted me to work in his retail store when I wasn't flying. I asked if it was OK if I took out a life insurance policy on him if he managed to find anyone who would fly for him. Then got up and left. I found out later he had a guy who was retired flying for him back then. The idiot pilot was charging $150 per day. It was the owners first airplane and he didn't know any better. Needless to say, the idiot pilot and the owner are still together.

I have spoken. I'm dizzy now. I think I'll sit down.

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Guys who wear combat boots instead of whatever.

I happen to like my Steel Toe Cats. I just can't get use to foo-foo
shiny shoes.



as for the rest of your list....they make me go uke:

CE

 

[mcjohn]

If you commit 150,000.00 USD into flying, get into the regionals and make it to the LCC's, don't come on here pi$$ing and moaning five years from now about:

What are LCCs?

 

[say again]

What are LCCs?

Low Cost Carriers, ie. Southwest, JetBlue, AirTran, etc

 

[say again]

All the grumpy old farts on this board who despise anyone who has an interest in being a professional pilot, I bet that when you were all young and starry eyed you wouldn't have let a grumpy old guy convince you to drop the idea of a career being a pilot.

Well back then it was worth the time and $$ to become a professional, nowadays.....nah!!!!

 

[81Horse]

Yep and the ship they were on was called an Orion with a PAN-AM logo....nice glass cockpit too for a film made in 1968...

IMHO, no CG effects film of recent vintage even comes close. Kubrick was a genius. The docking sequence, set to Strauss's Blue Danube Waltz, was worth the price of admission by itself. It has to be seen on the big screen though.

On topic: FN FAL, you left the windbreaker off your list.

 

[Dubya]

Just curious Fly...what were you 2000 hours ago?

W

And all these regional airline whizzes wonder why we don't want them anywhere but where they are...

 

[FN FAL]

IMHO, no CG effects film of recent vintage even comes close. Kubrick was a genius. The docking sequence, set to Strauss's Blue Danube Waltz, was worth the price of admission by itself. It has to be seen on the big screen though.

On topic: FN FAL, you left the windbreaker off your list.

Windbreakers, leather jackets, spandex space pilot uniforms, CFI's wearing pilot shirts, Ray-Bans v. Oakley-doaklies, mp-3 players, Virginia, any state beginning and ending with a vowel or Missouri.

 

[AAslag]

Windbreakers, leather jackets, spandex space pilot uniforms, CFI's wearing pilot shirts, Ray-Bans v. Oakley-doaklies, mp-3 players, Virginia, any state beginning and ending with a vowel or Missouri.

It's MISERY. An aviation wasteland.

 

[AirBadger]

Does that mean we shouldn't try to warn you?

No, in fact I very much appreciate it. I almost got sucked into going to a crappy, very expensive school and thanks to people that have been there, done that, I changed my mind and am now at much better local state technical college. I consider myself to be a lot better versed in the industry than my peers because I have done the research. All I'm saying is no matter how much older pilots whine, there are going to be a lot of people like me who have wanted to fly since the day they were born.

 

[mcjohn]

No, in fact I very much appreciate it. I almost got sucked into going to a crappy, very expensive school and thanks to people that have been there, done that, I changed my mind and am now at much better local state technical college. I consider myself to be a lot better versed in the industry than my peers because I have done the research. All I'm saying is no matter how much older pilots whine, there are going to be a lot of people like me who have wanted to fly since the day they were born.

What he said. Also, go easy on us CFIs that have to wear the pilot uniform. Sometimes we have no choice unless we pack up and leave town (well, at least that's my situation.) Never said I like wearing it. I like the uniform o.k. but I'd much rather make more than 10-15k a year for wearing it......and not wear it in a 172 everyday! My least favorite part of a lesson: student asks "BTW what do the 3 stripes on your shoulder mean?"
I respond..."It means I'm your first officer now shutup and fly the plane!":laugh:

After 500 dual given I'm gonna get upgraded to captain!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

CFI uniforms suck. If someone asks who you fly for, aren't you embarrased to say noone?

But i guess it makes one feel more professional and legitamizes the high rates a student pays to the school.

Do you work for one of the pilot factories or a mom and pop operation?

By the way, you mention that you wear a pilots uniform as a CFI in several of your posts, and no one was even discussing it here. Do you do the same with peoplke you meet in person?

 

[RichardRambone]

I had to wear those stupid uni's Student through CFI!! We had to buy blue shirts. You got 1 stripe for Private, 2 for instrument, 3 for commercial and then 3 and 4 for CFI's but you had the privelage of wearing a white shirt. There excuse was that it prepares you for the professional world and that they have VIPs coming through and want to look our best. How queer is that? Im out now and I dress like a bum. Thanks college!

 

[whaleroast]

There's a greater bartending shortage.