I'm Going To The 767ER

[acarpe3448]

If it was that great a gig, and an increase in QOL, new-hires wouldn't be holding it!

A buddy of mine is a 7 yr Mad Dog...has no interest in spending holidays in Lagos.

But I'm sure you'll have fun...

enjoy....

I hear it is a great gig indeed. There are a number of reasons that it is going to new hires! First, all of our growth in international! We are decreasing our domestic so there are a lot of slots on the ER! Second, the pay cuts that we took have made the spread between MD88F/O and 767ER F/O smaller. On the 88 I am able to hold a great line, get the days off I want, go to the cities I want, and there is lots of open time so you can get paid for a lot of hours! I was averaging around 82 hours or so a month! 7ER reserve guar is 70 hours a month! With the difference in pay, it is possible to make more on the 88! Third, our per diem needs to increase for interantional! With the dollar worth around 60% of the euro the per diem is to low! Fourth, the 7ER slots at JFK go unfilled because of the above mentioned reasons plus commuting there sucks! Variables such as full flights, and more and more RJs that cancel, are late all the time, or are weight restricted makes the commute difficult. You just cant count on the RJs to get you anywhere in time for a reserve check in!

On the other hand, I live in my base(ATL) so I wont need to commute! I am a 45 minute drive to the airport! Short calls wont bother me, I probably will not be called that often if I bid reserve (I can hold a line though) soI can hang out at my swimming pool during the summer! I want to fly to all of these locations and check them out! I have my own business in addition to Delta so money is not that big of a deal for me! And most important, the 767ER kicks ass! Not like a RJ50 of course, but cool all the same!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

looks like there are still about 100 ER opening after this AE. Will they look for displacement to it or will they put the new hires in there? It is something that I am sure will be interesting for them to figure out.

 

[crxpilot]

Hot, no trees, nothing but mexicans, and one of the largest drug wars going on across the dried up river! Great spot! I can always tell when someone is jealous! Thanks for showing me I was right!

Jealous? No. I've lived in Australia, New Zealand, the far east and I have visited Europe. If I ever need to see those places again I can get a pass on your airline and make you fly me over there. As for me, I have the greatest gig there is, all day trips and home every nite. My kids know me, does yours???

 

[crxpilot]

I think you should do just that. And clean the lint from your big belly too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Wow, they're right. You really are a tool.

 

[crxpilot]

I can see you never walked across the border into Juarez!!




PHXFLYR

Just like I have no more desire to fly int'l, I have no desire to go south of the border!

 

[General Lee]

Wow, they're right. You really are a tool.

Wow, that hurt my feelings......? (I really don't care what they think)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Jealous? No. I've lived in Australia, New Zealand, the far east and I have visited Europe. If I ever need to see those places again I can get a pass on your airline and make you fly me over there. As for me, I have the greatest gig there is, all day trips and home every nite. My kids know me, does yours???

We have day trips too, on all of the airplane types. We also have options on what aircraft to fly. Do you?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[BVT94]

We have day trips too, on all of the airplane types. We also have options on what aircraft to fly. Do you?


Bye Bye--General Lee

Do you guys have Midland layovers? I'm thinking about leaving Southwest for Delta, since I can hold the ER, anyways I think I'll really miss the Texas flying. Can I still do some Texas flying at Delta?

 

[DrunkIrishman]

Hey GL what does United call their three class cabin?

 

[roadrunnerblue]

I decided that I have had enough of the Mad Dog! The new AE awards were posted today and I am glad to see that I will be going to the 767ER. I am looking forward to all those new International destinations. I was surprised to see that the ATL based 767ER is still being held by new hires! I would get ready for a very long sit on reserve, but what a great plane to start your major airline career in! I myself loved the time I had on the 727 panel! Oh well, for those looking to come over to Delta, there is a lot of choices open to our new hires! Hope I'll see some of you soon!

You sound like a starry-eyed new hire out of an RJ at some commuter

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Do you guys have Midland layovers? I'm thinking about leaving Southwest for Delta, since I can hold the ER, anyways I think I'll really miss the Texas flying. Can I still do some Texas flying at Delta?

Will you get that refund back for that type rating?

 

[denny]

Congrats on the bid. I know you'll enjoy it for a while. The downside is it will take a tremendous toll on your physical health. I can't think of anything worse than droning around the world in a widebody. Glad there are young guys that want to do it.

denny

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

We have day trips too, on all of the airplane types. We also have options on what aircraft to fly. Do you?


Bye Bye--General Lee

Come on guys....Neener neener neener, my airlines better than your's. I thought those days were over....Guess not...:crying:
Oh yeah, my bad, this is FI

 

[michael707767]

looks like there are still about 100 ER opening after this AE. Will they look for displacement to it or will they put the new hires in there? It is something that I am sure will be interesting for them to figure out.

they can't displace someone to fill a vacancy. You can only be displaced if your category is shrinking or going away. Even then, its your choice where to go, not the companies. I suspect they will put out another bid very quickly to see if anyone bites on the unfilled slots, maybe waive some seat locks in case there is anyone who wanted it but was frozen. Beyond that, I think we will see new hires on the ER.

 

[FlyingSig]

When I was in training they said the newhire footprint for the 767 program will be up and running in August.

 

[whymeworry?]

Fatigue, Leg thrombosis, dehydration, massive boredom, hemorrhoids you can have it. Flying outside of the US...Priceless ;-)

Have you done it?

 

[whymeworry?]

I can see all those stinkin places from the comfort of my living room on DVD without all the hassle of going intl. At least in ELP they have great mexican food and nobody is trying to kill ya!

ahhhhhhhhh.... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.... sure, the DVD. That's the same.

Kind of like a passenger saying they can do our job 'cause they flew MS Flight Simulator.

Are grapes sour or are you really that ignorant?

 

[acarpe3448]

Jealous? No. I've lived in Australia, New Zealand, the far east and I have visited Europe. If I ever need to see those places again I can get a pass on your airline and make you fly me over there. As for me, I have the greatest gig there is, all day trips and home every nite. My kids know me, does yours???

Of course you are home everynight! When I instructed private pilots I was home every night also! You can trash it all you like, but you know that insults are the true expressions of jealousy!

 

[acarpe3448]

Do you guys have Midland layovers? I'm thinking about leaving Southwest for Delta, since I can hold the ER, anyways I think I'll really miss the Texas flying. Can I still do some Texas flying at Delta?

Midland Texas! What a great place! I was born and raised there!

 

[acarpe3448]

You sound like a starry-eyed new hire out of an RJ at some commuter

Thats a run over from my starry-eyed look when watching my new 1080p system! I'm blown away how good the picture is!

 

[BVT94]

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[crxpilot]

Of course you are home everynight! When I instructed private pilots I was home every night also! You can trash it all you like, but you know that insults are the true expressions of jealousy!

The truth hurts doesnt it? You must be a real joy to fly with.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I would love to go to the ER, but I do not think that 10 years on reserve would be too much fun for an FNG.

 

[motch]

Living in NYC.. I would welcome the oppurtunity!

LOL

Always
Motch

 

[Howard Hughes]

I decided that I have had enough of the Mad Dog! The new AE awards were posted today and I am glad to see that I will be going to the 767ER. I am looking forward to all those new International destinations. I was surprised to see that the ATL based 767ER is still being held by new hires! I would get ready for a very long sit on reserve, but what a great plane to start your major airline career in! I myself loved the time I had on the 727 panel! Oh well, for those looking to come over to Delta, there is a lot of choices open to our new hires! Hope I'll see some of you soon!

Congratulations! I just saw some of the pairings out of NY on the 7ER. Some very productive flying with some nice layoevers. Many of these trips average over ten hours credit per day and you will get paid several of those hours for sleeping/eating. Some layovers 15 to 24 hours in some great hotels. On a side note I was just looking at the Delta contract. Five hours fifteen minute daily guarantee along with many well thought out work rules still in tact....looks good! Have fun and let us know how it goes.

 

[Howard Hughes]

I would love to go to the ER, but I do not think that 10 years on reserve would be too much fun for an FNG.

ACL, you could always do the 7ER for two years, take in NY as a one time life event then bid back to 767 ATL domestic. The fam might have something to say about this however If hiring continues like it is now you could probably hold a line in ATL at the end of the two years. Just a thought.

 

[acarpe3448]

Congratulations! I just saw some of the pairings out of NY on the 7ER. Some very productive flying with some nice layoevers. Many of these trips average over ten hours credit per day and you will get paid several of those hours for sleeping/eating. Some layovers 15 to 24 hours in some great hotels. On a side note I was just looking at the Delta contract. Five hours fifteen minute daily guarantee along with many well thought out work rules still in tact....looks good! Have fun and let us know how it goes.

I have not looked at the NYC ER lines. I am going to be an ATL based ER/FO

 

[JohnQ]

Congrats on the bid. I know you'll enjoy it for a while. The downside is it will take a tremendous toll on your physical health. I can't think of anything worse than droning around the world in a widebody. Glad there are young guys that want to do it.

denny

First of all, to each his own. I thorougly enjoyed domestic flying, and I really enjoy the international flying.

But the "you will kill your body" myth is mostly just that. I am far more rested, eat better, and am in better shape AND spend more time with the family flying international than I ever did domestic. Of course, I also mix it up with an equal mix of European layovers, 2-day Central American trips (all on East coast time) and South America.

In the "good (or bad) old days" the international flying was on the L15/DC10, where you did not have a rest break and ate the first class leftovers of caviar for 11 hours--in between cigarettes! No way would I have flown that. But with the required rest break, I can fall asleep quite easily, which makes a HUGE difference. I also eat the first class crew meals (pretty good for the most part) in a relaxed manner--far superior to inhaling the Chinese food you just got at the food court after your third leg but before your fourth and fifth!

On the layover itself you have the time to eat really good food again in a relaxed setting (which also reminds you just how bad a lot of American restaurant food is). Take a couple of hours to work out and run and you feel great! The key is...can you sleep when you need to? If you can (and I can) then international is great. If not...well it is not so great.

Again to each his own. But after flying domestic at DAL for 9 years before I went international, I will absolutely state that I saw far more pathetic-looking fatigued, prematurely old, overweight types flying domestic than I ever have international. Of course the fact that we retired over 1000 senior international pilots before I entered the category might also have something to do with it!

Again, to each his own. If you enjoy what you are flying that is all that matters.

 

[Quimby]

I'm going................


to get a beer.

 

[FreightGod]

[QUOTEThe new AE awards were posted today ][/QUOTE]

Damn, Eagle got 767-300ERs now...?

Here goes the neigborhood and the paycheck.