ILN ops

[erichartmann]

No Astar aircraft made today's day sort either. What's up with that? Surely there were crews who could have flown those aircraft to ILN. After all, the wx came back up fairly early in the morning, around 0430 or 0500 anyway.

It may not be counted against Astar's ontime performace as spelled out in the ACMI, but I feel sure somewhere someone in the DPWN/DHL network is taking notes.

 

[AV8OR]

"It may not be counted against Astar's ontime performace as spelled out in the ACMI, but I feel sure somewhere someone in the DPWN/DHL network is taking notes."

Eric, that assumes that DHL actually cares about their customers. Think again. That, my friend, is who's "taking notes".

 

[Johnlp3]

Taking notes? Who do you think makes the call to cancel the flights in the first place?

That's right..."the customer" DHL

 

[erichartmann]

Taking notes? Who do you think makes the call to cancel the flights in the first place?

That's right..."the customer" DHL

Doesn't mean their not taking notes. Flying fuel hungry jurrasic jets around that don't get where they are supposed to go is expen$ive. They may not care about the customer, they may make boneheaded decisions, but I doubt they like obviously pi$$ing money down a rathole, at least on the mico-economic scale the last couple of days represents. Not much point in getting into the "big" picture.

 

[Johnlp3]

I wonder how much it costs to keep a sort full of non-conveyables on the ground.

Cat II and more fuel efficient aircraft is only part of the solution.

 

[erichartmann]

I wonder how much it costs to keep a sort full of non-conveyables on the ground.

Cat II and more fuel efficient aircraft is only part of the solution.

Never said it was the whole solution. BTW, the 767's are Cat III. Reconfiguring the current 767 "C" container aircraft to the original belly containers would take care of most if not all of the non-conveyables. This is very inexpensive mod, currently underway. I'm told it only takes a few hours.

 

[Johnlp3]

BTW, the 767's are Cat III.

Cat II, Cat III. Either way it is more than we have.

Reconfiguring the current 767 "C" container aircraft to the original belly containers would take care of most if not all of the non-conveyables. This is very inexpensive mod, currently underway. I'm told it only takes a few hours.

So if all the 767s had the belly containers they could have taken care of all the cities in the whole system over the last couple of days? I guess DHL has nothing to worry about.

 

[TWA]

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ABX111/history/20070222/0516Z/KSGH/KPIT

Did ABX111 divert into SGH last night, or was there some filing fluke?

 

[LarryinTN]

Did ABX111 divert into SGH last night, or was there some filing fluke?

Flightaware is confused. I think that SGH is the first fix on the flight plan to PIT.

 

[LarryinTN]

So if all the 767s had the belly containers they could have taken care of all the cities in the whole system over the last couple of days?

We certainly flew a lot of extra sections--all of the 2000 flight numbers shown on Flightaware. We certainly don't have enough airplanes left to fly it all, though.

 

[DC-9er]

We certainly don't have enough airplanes left to fly it all, though.

Only if you don't count all those Cat II DC-9s we parked.

 

[LarryinTN]

So why were the departures so late, and extra sections still flying, on Friday morning?

 

[DC-9er]

Only if you don't count all those Cat II DC-9s we parked.

I'm referring, of course, to all the 9s we parked since the integration

 

[rotor&wing]

Doesn't mean their not taking notes. Flying fuel hungry jurrasic jets around that don't get where they are supposed to go is expen$ive. They may not care about the customer, they may make boneheaded decisions, but I doubt they like obviously pi$$ing money down a rathole, at least on the mico-economic scale the last couple of days represents. Not much point in getting into the "big" picture.

yea, they're "taking notes"......such as filling DC9's with ground freight to make it appear they are carrying more priority freight, double billing and hiding freight in warehouses in ILN, a 2500% increase (that's not a typo) in internal theft since the consolidation, a constant and huge turnover of ground personel working the sort, nights when the weather goes bad over half the work force (ramp and sort) not showing up for work, etc, etc,etc.................

 

[ABXbooger]

Where did that come from?

It amazes me to hear the Astar guys blame everyone but themselves, everytime. Unbelievable...

 

[hvydriver]

>It amazes me to hear the Astar guys blame everyone but themselves, everytime.<

LOL Booger! You figured it out. Our pilot group decided against bringing the fleet up to CATII again and again over the years, so we could divert to the four corners of the earth. It's all our fault for following the rules. Oh, the shame!

 

[ABXbooger]

Nope, you guys can't be blamed for CAT II, but I am sick of hearing how DHL has screwed it all up coming to ILN, and how you guys had it all figured out down in CVG and by coming to ILN, the future hope for DHL is gone. Seems like every decision has played out wrong. Yep, DHL bought Airborne and in the opinion of some legacy DHL people, saved it from certain doom. And since then the "savior" has continued to lose market share, at an alarming rate.

Rotor, prove your allegations else take your hysterical rants and move on.

Why do you guys have to wait for DHL to pony up the money for anything? Your ACMI allows you MUCH higher margins on your flying, the only service Astar provides to DHL. Use some of those profits to benefit your business model. I would worry about a company that won't invest a dime into the program unless DHL re-imburses the expense.

 

[hvydriver]

>Why do you guys have to wait for DHL to pony up the money for anything? Your ACMI allows you MUCH higher margins on your flying, the only service Astar provides to DHL.<

'Cause "The Daz" is one cheap bastage. He won't do anything unless DHL agrees to pony for it up front. As to what he's doing with all the money this place is making, we've got no idea. He's certainly not putting it back into the company. It's very frustrating.

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

This is one problem I don't think you can blame entirely on Dasburg. He's a businessman...he'll give DHL whatever they want, provided they're willing to pay for it.

The question of why Airways wasn't Cat II was raised in the early 90's. At the time, their excuse was that DHL didn't want to bear the cost of certifying and maintaining their aircraft to the higher standard. They felt that at best, Cat II certification would be of value to less than 1% of their operations.

I guess nobody gave any consideration to the true cost of being only 99% reliable.

 

[goastar]

What exactly do you think "WE" control. The answer, for you who don't habla, is NOTHING!!!! Not to hard to figure out.

Where did that come from?

It amazes me to hear the Astar guys blame everyone but themselves, everytime. Unbelievable...