ILN ops

[AV8OR]

Shouldn't you have been called and told not to come to work if your trip was canceled? I would file a grievance for the pay, kick'um when their down I say!!

Yeah, I would have if it hadn't been reserve. Sux to be me. Got to stay in PIT at my expense while not getting paid cause my JS didn't make it in on time.

Thankfully
I got a personal call from Ted thanking me for my effort..........yeah.

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

I was JS inbound on an ABX flight and after holding a while we had to divert into PIT. Called crew sched, and apparently AOC decided not bring any AStar aircraft inbound. Not even to try it.

DHL's mess. You run on the edge of civilization, once in a while ya get hit with a rock. Idiots.

The word on the street is that the UPS service reps are already capitalizing on this fiasco, citing it as yet another example of DHL's total lack of committment to service. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that FedEx's salespeople were doing the same.

This is just another example of why DHL will never be a true contender in the overnight express business. They're so focused on lowering costs that they've completely overlooked the concept of "Total Quality Management" that makes FedEx and UPS such formidible competitors.

 

[767pilot]

The word on the street is that the UPS service reps are already capitalizing on this fiasco, citing it as yet another example of DHL's total lack of committment to service.

They'd better be careful how they phrase that. Rumor last night was that there were 18 DC-8's and 747's that didn't make it into SDF on time.

 

[Jurassic Jet]

They'd better be careful how they phrase that. Rumor last night was that there were 18 DC-8's and 747's that didn't make it into SDF on time.

Plus I know of at least one Airbus. They were parked right beside us on a ground stop.

 

[767pilot]

Plus I know of at least one Airbus. They were parked right beside us on a ground stop.

FDX doesn't get off the hook either. One of their 727's (coming to rescue a parked airbus?) made two missed approaches at SDF before heading back to wherever it is that they come from

 

[erichartmann]

No Astar aircraft made today's day sort either. What's up with that? Surely there were crews who could have flown those aircraft to ILN. After all, the wx came back up fairly early in the morning, around 0430 or 0500 anyway.

It may not be counted against Astar's ontime performace as spelled out in the ACMI, but I feel sure somewhere someone in the DPWN/DHL network is taking notes.

 

[AV8OR]

"It may not be counted against Astar's ontime performace as spelled out in the ACMI, but I feel sure somewhere someone in the DPWN/DHL network is taking notes."

Eric, that assumes that DHL actually cares about their customers. Think again. That, my friend, is who's "taking notes".

 

[Johnlp3]

Taking notes? Who do you think makes the call to cancel the flights in the first place?

That's right..."the customer" DHL

 

[erichartmann]

Taking notes? Who do you think makes the call to cancel the flights in the first place?

That's right..."the customer" DHL

Doesn't mean their not taking notes. Flying fuel hungry jurrasic jets around that don't get where they are supposed to go is expen$ive. They may not care about the customer, they may make boneheaded decisions, but I doubt they like obviously pi$$ing money down a rathole, at least on the mico-economic scale the last couple of days represents. Not much point in getting into the "big" picture.

 

[Johnlp3]

I wonder how much it costs to keep a sort full of non-conveyables on the ground.

Cat II and more fuel efficient aircraft is only part of the solution.

 

[erichartmann]

I wonder how much it costs to keep a sort full of non-conveyables on the ground.

Cat II and more fuel efficient aircraft is only part of the solution.

Never said it was the whole solution. BTW, the 767's are Cat III. Reconfiguring the current 767 "C" container aircraft to the original belly containers would take care of most if not all of the non-conveyables. This is very inexpensive mod, currently underway. I'm told it only takes a few hours.

 

[Johnlp3]

BTW, the 767's are Cat III.

Cat II, Cat III. Either way it is more than we have.

Reconfiguring the current 767 "C" container aircraft to the original belly containers would take care of most if not all of the non-conveyables. This is very inexpensive mod, currently underway. I'm told it only takes a few hours.

So if all the 767s had the belly containers they could have taken care of all the cities in the whole system over the last couple of days? I guess DHL has nothing to worry about.

 

[TWA]

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ABX111/history/20070222/0516Z/KSGH/KPIT

Did ABX111 divert into SGH last night, or was there some filing fluke?

 

[LarryinTN]

Did ABX111 divert into SGH last night, or was there some filing fluke?

Flightaware is confused. I think that SGH is the first fix on the flight plan to PIT.

 

[LarryinTN]

So if all the 767s had the belly containers they could have taken care of all the cities in the whole system over the last couple of days?

We certainly flew a lot of extra sections--all of the 2000 flight numbers shown on Flightaware. We certainly don't have enough airplanes left to fly it all, though.