If everyone else can do it, why can't ASA?

[PCL_128]

That violates basic seniority.

Exactly!

 

[IFLYASA]

So basically, if as you say you have a line with the first trip on the 5th, they can just arbitrarily stick some flying on your line prior to that? Wow. That violates basic seniority. I would imagine if you have something with the family going on in the first 4 days of the month, there is almost no point in bidding it off. Thanks for the explanation, I understand why all concern and talk about it.

Actually it's "supposed" to be based on inverse seniority. Crew planning takes those who chose to be integrated first, and usually add higher block trips on their integration days. Then it goes to the most junior line holder. They see what can be added, then to the next person, and so on. Ususally the really senior pilots don't get integrated. But I have heard the #1 pilot getting inegrated.

 

[michael707767]

Actually it's "supposed" to be based on inverse seniority. Crew planning takes those who chose to be integrated first, and usually add higher block trips on their integration days. Then it goes to the most junior line holder. They see what can be added, then to the next person, and so on. Ususally the really senior pilots don't get integrated. But I have heard the #1 pilot getting inegrated.

Hey, no matter how you slice it, it sounds like BS to me.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

It is, especially since that technology exists at Delta already. I find it hard to believe that by being owned by Delta for 5 or 6 years now, archaic processes are still being used here.


(Still waiting for computer sign in)

 

[atrdriver]

So basically, if as you say you have a line with the first trip on the 5th, they can just arbitrarily stick some flying on your line prior to that? Wow. That violates basic seniority. I would imagine if you have something with the family going on in the first 4 days of the month, there is almost no point in bidding it off. Thanks for the explanation, I understand why all concern and talk about it.

To add to what ATR-DRIVR said, you have ZERO control over the first 3 or 4 days of your month, unless your bid line already flies you on those days. If the company can put flying on an integration day, and keep you legal, they will. Often it is 1 round trip blocked to less than 2 hours, just to make you come in and avoid having you get that magical extra day off.

 

[Airboss]

Here is a question.
You arrive at an aircraft, and for some reason, lets say apu inop on 95 degree day and plane is way too hot for revenue flight. So the captain denys the aircraft or says get it fixed. So you get a new airplane.
The company will then give the same ship to another crew. If they take the ship then nothing will ever get fixed. It needs to be written in the can, that plane was not accepted for MX reasons, so EVERY crew DENYS the airplane. If eveyone does it then things will get fixed. If it doesn't happen, the company will be able to get away with these items.
Just my opinion.

 

[sweptback]

Tell me, what exactly would you write up?

The APU was written up, then deferred. The aircraft is legal for service as per the MEL. Just because the captain doesn't want to take the aircraft (and rightly so in a 95 degree day when there is one working ground air cart that probably puts out 50 deg. air at best) does not mean there's an additional maintenance discrepancy on the aircraft.

 

[701EV]

By looking at the ASA Flight Control Daily Log a lot of Captains are refusing to take aircraft with inop APU's. That is what every Captain needs to do! Then they will fix them.


701EV

 

[viper01]

I agree. We refused one of the BR6?? independence a/c due to apu inop. And that was per Chief pilot to refuse the a/c.

 

[Mojo Risen]

So tell me what to do. Do I send ASA my resume or do I sit on the fence and wait till Skywest picks them up and then apply?

 

[homerjdispatch]

So tell me what to do. Do I send ASA my resume or do I sit on the fence and wait till Skywest picks them up and then apply?

Just send your resumé to Mesa.

 

[PHX-AV8OR]

Without APU's in the summer how are the chocolate granola chewy bars supposed to survive!?!?!?

 

[701EV]

Mojo,

Send your resume to everybody, not just ASA

701EV

 

[doh]

"The vote," at this rate won't take place until 2016.

I still hear pilots nursing broken planes around, fudging times (i.e. SLC) to give the company stellar on time perf., and generally doing everything they can to keep the Titanic on course.

The only way we will EVER see a new contract (let alone a better contract), is by bringing the company to it's knees. This is the ONLY way Delta will notice us--banners over the stadium are cute, but ineffective.

Skips letters tell us how "well" the company is doing, with record loads, good performence stats, etc. Why? Because pilots aren't putting any pressure on the comany.

As a group, we are a bunch of patsy school girls, and we are getting what we deserve.

Amen Palerider! Amen.

 

[Tomct]

That is right fella's, we MUST deny those inop apu aircraft in the heat! It is the "Captains Authority" deeming the heat making it unsafe to take the aircraft! Until things pick-up in the contract area, call EXACT TIMES!! Quit helping the company out! They have screwed us for almost 3 years, it is time to let the "on-time" thing blow away! Keep the faith guys/gals!