If Delta had asked this, woudl the pilot have accepted?

[IB6 UB9]

Well, why don't these JB pilots get a union on property and raise their wages. Any union. Oh, that's right. They have a 4 or 5 year contract and the company would just get rid of them. So much for a profession.

That's quite an impressive contribution to the board...all two posts. You sure told us!

 

[jbucpt]

Well, why don't these JB pilots get a union on property and raise their wages. Any union. Oh, that's right. They have a 4 or 5 year contract and the company would just get rid of them. So much for a profession.

maybe we should get ALPA to represent us so they can show us how to BEND OVER................

its funny how you like to dump on us regarding the 190 rates but forget to mention the A-320 rates renegotiated by ALPA at USAIR, UNITED. its weird how a non union pilot group makes more than an ALPA pilot group flying A-320's......................OUCH!!

 

[B6Driver]

Please.

Well, why don't these JB pilots get a union on property and raise their wages. Any union. Oh, that's right. They have a 4 or 5 year contract and the company would just get rid of them. So much for a profession.

Well, All you know-it-all's can't have it both ways.
You have the all powerful ALPO on the property at your place of business so just have them put their almighty foot down and demand a rate that you see as proper and appropriate. Oh right, ALPO is a sham and carries no weight any more in this world.
JetBlue is not getting rid of anybody and recently renewed all the existing contracts for another 5 years and changed them to "evergreen" contracts that will automatically renew at the end of their term.
If you knew some of the details of the JB pilot contract, you would wonder why ALPO never asked to negotiate similar benefits for its members; go figure. Can you still justify the 1.95% shake down of your salaries while Ex-Capt. Woerth changed the by-laws and no longer has to share the pain in salary reductions as his members?

 

[kassel737]

I finally made two post because I couldn't take it anymore. Are you telling me that the wages JB pays is not a detriment to our profession. 5 year contract? I could give a crap what union just do something to bring up those sorry wages.

 

[Lawman]

maybe we should get ALPA to represent us so they can show us how to BEND OVER................

its funny how you like to dump on us regarding the 190 rates but forget to mention the A-320 rates renegotiated by ALPA at USAIR, UNITED. its weird how a non union pilot group makes more than an ALPA pilot group flying A-320's......................OUCH!!

Don't ever let Dwayne Worthless hear that. OOOOOHHHHHH Mamma........

 

[kassel737]

Look at CALs 737-500 pay and EMB-190. Maybe 8-10 seat less and what will the pay be at JB? Exactly.

 

[B6Driver]

Don't believe the hype and do a little research before spouting off about something you obviously know very little about or just wallow in your ignorance with the rest, the choice is yours.

 

[Dizel8]

Maybe Song and the rest of the airlines wouuld be a profitable or close to profitable if JB would charge a little more for ticket prices.

Considering jetblue already maintains a fare premium over Song, how much higher should we go, 50%? Since Song does not match jetblue now, would they do if we charged even more?

 

[kassel737]

So then how much can a Capt. expect to make in the 190 without being a whore for time?

 

[Dizel8]

Random date:

JFK-FLL
Song $141
Jetblue $161
AA JFK-MIA for $121.
SWA ISP-FLL $210

So Kassel, tell me again who is keeping fares down?

 

[ultrarunner]

I took a quick peek at 5 year numbers for 320 Cpt's at JB vs. UAL. And the FO numbers. Both within a couple of bucks.

Wouldn't appear that JB is the one "lowering the bar".

Very enlightening.

 

[B6Driver]

Thanks for all the credit you give JetBlue for lowering fares in America.

Fare wars existed way before JB was ever on the radar screens of the airline industry yet, " if JB would charge a little more for ticket prices, all would be fine in this crazy business".

Take your ugly finger of blame and stick it at the person / group who is really to blame; yourself, your union, and your company management.
Yourself for believing all the hype and fostering your sense of entitlement as a birth right. The union knew that these demands were unsustainable in this very cyclical market. Lastly, your totally incompetent management groups for being down right stupid at every turn.

Now, I am the first to say that if you don't ask, you won't get but this thought process must be tempered in reality with an eye on the long term goal of our careers.

Fire away....I love a good discussion.

 

[kassel737]

So b6driver, what will the pay be for the EMB-190 Capt. Is it too embarrasing to tell?

 

[FurloughedTwice]

Random date:

JFK-FLL
Song $141
Jetblue $161
or take AA JFK-MIA for $97.

Tell me again who is keeping fares down!

I wouldn't go down that road!!

Random date.

JetBlue - SEA to BOS $119
Alaska - SEA to BOS $409
AA - SEA to BOS $549

 

[Dizel8]

So b6driver, what will the pay be for the EMB-190 Capt. Is it too embarrasing to tell?

Go to www.airlinepilotcentral.com, they have the numbers for most carriers.