IBT & ALPA political clout against DHL/UPS

[mxer]

but they'll gain way too much information about our business.

What information? That DPWN can not figure out how to work in the U.S. market? I think they already know that.

 

[flyinboxes]

Agreed, DHL will cease to exist in the US in a few years or less. They are also lying about the ground network as it will be toast soon. They need it to run smoothly over the next year and then once the transition is complete. BAM.

 

[shooter]

...I just don't see what's to stop UPS from poaching our clients. Unless, of course, the overall DPWN plan is to spin off DHL to UPS a couple of years down the road.

If that is what dhl wants or not, it aint gonna matter. UPS sales force will take them anyway. As soon as the 1st yellow box goes in a brown aircraft, the sales will be knocking on EVERY door in the service area and say...see....we fly it anyway. Let's eliminate that yellow middle man, shall we.

 

[shooter]

but they'll gain way too much information about our business.

What information? That DPWN can not figure out how to work in the U.S. market? I think they already know that.

I think he means that they will know they haul 1 can of nothing but xyz out of KABC every night. Could easily let them know how to price the product away from dhl. It's over for them as it is for us. Just we get to sit back and witness it after the hammering they are giving us today. Something tells me champagne will flow that day. What do you think?

 

[fozzie]

No 1 and No2

When I explained to my 17 year old daughter that DHL had an agreement to ship their packages on UPS aircraft and her dad was going to lose his job at ABX soon, She replied with a comment that nearly knocked me off my chair. She exclaimed "HMMM, sounds like No.1 and No. 2 Dad !!! You know, yellow and brown!!!" God, I love that kid......

 

[cheyflyer]

Larry Hilbloom will surely fall out of his hammock when this news finally reaches him somewhere in the South Pacific.

Amazing! F'ing Amazing!!

 

[Jurassic Jet]

Fedex can also use this as a HUGE sales tool with DHL customers.

Imagine a Fedex salesman talking to a DHL customer if you will.

He calmly explains that if they continue to use DHL, that their package is ultimately out of their control. It is flown on a UPS aircraft. What if UPS strikes? What priority will DHL packages have at Christmas?

But, if you elect to use Fedex, your package will:

Be picked up by a Fedex driver
Be put on a Fedex airplane
Be flown by Fedex pilots
Sorted at a Fedex facility
Delivered by a Fedex driver

Customer: "Where do I sign?"

 

[EMBPILOT1]

I would expect nothing else from a Brown pilot. Apparently, you are just as giddy as Bob Miller was in his proclamation of absorbing another's job. Class acts all way the past the graveyard to the bank.

My wife and children wish to thank you and Mr. Miller for your concern.

Blow Me buddy!! I am not giddy, as I know UPS management will find other ways to move the packages. The pilots at UPS will be the last to benefit from this.

 

[abxaviator]

Um...I think the "prize" for last goes to Astar and ABX pilots and employees.

 

[Fly Astar Jets]

Blow Me buddy!!....

That says it all friend.

At least I know that the great majority of UPS pilots are not as insensitive as you. So my apologies for grouping them with you.

 

[abxaviator]

Anyone going to the Red Bull air race in Detroit this weekend? I need to get out and not think about this for a couple days. May leave from Cincy this evening.

 

[AV80R]

... If the IBT and ALPA had any political clout, now is the time to use it.

Well, ALPA has no clout... and IBT? Well besides the pilots themselves pretty much everyone at UPS IS IBT so they'd be spitting into the wind..

 

[AV80R]

Fedex can also use this as a HUGE sales tool with DHL customers...

Well, I see your point but it could also go like this…

"He calmly explains that if they continue to use DHL, that their package is ultimately out of their control. It is flown on a UPS aircraft. What if UPS strikes? What priority will DHL packages have at Christmas?

But, if you elect to use Fedex, your package will:

Be picked up by a Fedex driver...

...or actually an 'independent contract worker' who's suing right now to be recognized as an employee so he/she can get all the employee benefits, etc...”

Sorry, didn't mean to pick on purple drivers but had to respond to this "speculation"...

Maybe it's 'a tad' inappropriate for us, both UPS and Fedex drivers to be acting like vulchers (sp?) speculating how this deal might benefit our respective companies at a time when DHL guys/gals are getting screwed by their own management? I really feel bad about the way they got screwed…

 

[mxer]

Don't worry about it. I'm an ABX guy and I know that you guys aren't vultures. Your company is picking up where an the Germans are failing. Thats business. We are controlled by some that just didn't get the job done. You guys that fly brown have been very respectful to our demise and that is very much appreciated.

 

[wickedride]

Don't worry about it. I'm an ABX guy and I know that you guys aren't vultures. Your company is picking up where an the Germans are failing. Thats business. We are controlled by some that just didn't get the job done. You guys that fly brown have been very respectful to our demise and that is very much appreciated.

X2 what he said
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wickedride

 

[TWA]

Looks like McCain will be in Wilmington this afternoon for a meeting about the DHL cluster********************. Unfortunately it's a closed meeting, so the whole town won't be able to shop up.