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I wish to issue a public apology for the uncalled-for joke I made last Monday.

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I didn't see the "joke". Whatever. What raises my eyebrow is that someone apparently with an authority hard-on (I have a good idea whom that might be) seems to think this message board requires the same decorum as the workplace. Sheesh...how pitiful.
 
Simon Says said:
Another High and Mighty prick. I would love to bring my bat over to your glass house and break every pane in it.

You, Me, and everybody else has done stupid things, said stupid things and have done much worse. Get off your high horse and get in touch with reality.

And with the respect comment.......I am sure he doesn't give a #!%^ about who you respect.

I would love you to bring your bat over to my house so I can shove it up your a$$ sideways, but you may enjoy that too much!

See Simon, I think that was funny and I don't take your comment too serious. I'm just saying that a racist comment like he originally posted was classless no matter how high a horse you think I'm on. Sounds like your a little uptight.

I have to go get in touch with reality now.
 
All this crap about poor pitiful black people and how they were done so wrong is about to get under my skin. It happened, it was bad, it's over, and so what. I do not see any of it happening now. And what about the American Indian. I don't see them in the news every day crying about how they were done so wrong and demanding restitution.
I was born and raised in Selma, Alabama (Please don't hold it against me). I was in grade school at Dallas Academy right behind the Dallas County Court House where Martin Luther King stood on those steps and gave His address. I was there, I remember it well and I don't remember it the way it's told now. It wasn't 5000 white men beating, shooting, burning and hanging 1000 blacks. It was more the other way around from what I remember. This whole thing is a farce for the money, that's all. That's the way I see it and I don't give a rat what anybody else has to say about it.
 
On a more serious note, has anyone tried the double-double cheeseburger from IN-N-OUT Burger? If you order it "animal style" they will put grilled onions on it. It's awesome!

Is IN-N-OUT a nationwide chain?
 
Flywithmike said:
On a more serious note, has anyone tried the double-double cheeseburger from IN-N-OUT Burger? If you order it "animal style" they will put grilled onions on it. It's awesome!

Is IN-N-OUT a nationwide chain?

"Those are good burgers Walter."

"Shut the f*ck up Donny!"
 
transpondersoff said:
I wouldn't call what he said stupid. Whoever this person is has one heck of a sense of humor. I will defend the poster because he and I have the same type of sense of humor. Sometimes you just have to laugh and not take yourself to seriously. I am certain the poster knew of the contributions made by black people in aviation and other areas as well, but pointing that out before making a joke like that loses it's comedic value.

In my opinion, he said what others were thinking but didn't have the guts to say it. I know, some have more class, yada,yada... Chris Rock made millions from jokes like these. I would have made the same joke, but he beat me too it. I bet that both black people on this board laughed when they read that. He is not insensitive, classless, tasteless or whatever. He is funny. Don't take life so seriously; take time to laugh at yourself as well as others. Life is too short to be PC and not have a sense of humor.

I can't believe that nobody caught the joke that transpondersoff wrote. I would hope that there are more than two black people on this board.
 
This is why apologies are rarely offered....becuase people don't know how to accept them. They use the apology to push the issue....

People of true character know how to accept an apology. It takes alot to give one....
 
Hello, From MissKittyKat,

Forgiveness is a great asset to have. I have many, many friends who are "international" I have to "brag" at this point! My best friend is from Haiti! I was the only "white" cheerleader in school! Jokes will always be Jokes! I'm European as well, which I have many Jokes against my culture! People are people and if you love people and help others you think nothing of it, however people are sensitive but I love all, never saw the post, don't care too, apology accepted! And let us unite as all great people do!

My best to everyone, go for it! Ignore those who dont understand you or help!
 
Wow, White America still has a long way to go. "Discussions" like this are really depressing. People who appear to be decent, and who most likely are decent in most respects, reveal severe character flaws and/or ignorance. It isn't about being PC, which, as far as I see it, only encourages people to pretend. It's about respect and empathy and humility. Qualities that we really do not pay much attention to nowadays.

I am very happy that the original poster apologized for his remarkably ill-conceived "joke". I am less happy that it was the thought of potential economic consequences that brought home to him the profoundly offensive nature of his remarks. He is young. He will, hopefully, learn and grow like all of us.

FYI, unlike what some others have said, I can promise that making this kind of "joke" would never occur to me, or to many, many other people, in a million years. To those of you to whom it, or something similar, leapt swiftly to mind, you might want to spend a little time in self-examination.
 
dseagrav said:
kick my ass too.

You are a good man for apologizing! I have no idea what you said, but whatever it was, you took the high road.

I guess the real reason I wanted to reply is the fact that ASS is not a censored word, which I find funny considering some of the moderators censor certian topics and discussions.

ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS! :-) (And no, the smiley is not because I like ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS, but rather to prove this post is in tounge and cheek.)
 
flyifrvfr said:
I would hope that there are more than two black people on this board.
how could there be? 1 out of 3 black males aged 20 to 29 are in prison, jail, probation or parole [1]. Reading posts on this forum would just depress them more than humor them.

[1]Contemporary Corrections, 2nd Edition
G. Larry Mays, L. Thomas Winfree, Jr.
Copyright 2002 Wadsworth/Thomson Learning
 
According to my text, things look up for the Hispanics, with only 1 out of 10 from the same age group in prison, jail, probation and parole. White dudes finish last, with only 1 out of 15, in the same penal configuration.


References:
Contemporary Corrections, 2nd Edition
G. Larry Mays, L. Thomas Winfree, Jr.
Copyright 2002 Wadsworth/Thomson Learning
 
Those figures may be correct, but the system of incarceration is a little biased. You see, while there may be a disproportionate amount of blacks in prison, this in and of itself can not be objectively indicative of blacks committing more crime.

Crime is dependent upon the availability of opportunity for a particular crime. The issue here is what crimes are available to the different segments of a population. People from all races commit crimes and it isn’t realistic to generalize solely on color. It can be argued that white people commit almost as many crimes as any other race, it just takes place in different settings. For instance, white collar crime is not a heavily policed area. Street crime, on the other hand, is more heavily policed and more easily prosecuted. White collar crimes tend to be invisible and more likely to go unnoticed. The repercussions of white collar crimes can sometimes induce harm on many more people than a single incident of street crime.

Blacks, due to a myriad of social and economical reasons, including an unfortunate legacy of slavery, are seen mostly participating in street-level crimes. These type of crimes tend to affect victims on a smaller, more individual basis and usually are violent in nature. Most have a fatalistic outlook on life and were born into poverty. A product of their environment where rules on advancement in life are predicated upon a different set of rules. Role models and aspirations and what hold status or value are contingent upon the environment.

Things like credit card fraud, insurance fraud, insider trading, unethical corporate maneuvers, cheating on taxes, cheating on your timesheet - you name it. All of these types of crimes can very easily be gotten away with. Of course this in not inclusive of every white collar crime, but in order to be in a position to execute or have access to a lot of these crimes requires some level of education and money.

Presently, I'm enjoying the wave of corporate scandals. In reality, the crime that occurs at the executive level imposes more damage on a much larger scale to society than petty street crime. The implications of corporate wrong-doing affect many more people financially for many years to come, including their health in some instances.

Historically, corporations went unscathed for the crimes committed by enjoying the protection provided to them by the very nature of the limited liability structure of a corporation, thus absolving many executives from proper punishment. I’m glad to see those silver bracelets match that expensive suit.
 

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