I can't understand the low pay

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Christ lady, how many usernames do you have?

 

[trainerjet]

I say THE PILOTS ON THE JOB ARE THE ONES NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT... NOT THE ONES THAT ARE WAITING IN LINE FOR IT! YOU HAVE THE POWER! YOU ALWAYS HAVE! USE IT!

Is he willing to walk if and when it comes to that? As it likely will take such drastic action to effect drastic change. That is assuming there's no alter-ego or contractor willing and able to take up the slack. And if he is willing to walk, are you willing to support him during the difficult time that would ensue, with no guarantee that the action would be successful? And if it is successful, would he believe that his actions were worth it considering, in all likelihood, that they were walking more for the future pilots than the present?

 

[Publishers]

Real Problem

This is and will continue to be a problem in our industry.

Nevertheless, one thing being lost in this situation is that the individual in this case is well over qualified for the position that they find themselves in. There are many others including myself that find that to be the case this year.

He is qualified but in what for all intent and purpose is an entry level position in regional airlines. It does not pay much but gives you the opportinity to build experience and move up.

This persons position is reflective of the fact that there are not the number of positions available for the people qualified.

 

[ksu_aviator]

I was furloughed from a regional and turned down two recalls to stay at a better paying 135 gig. I've been yelled at by at least one person for doing so. "You can't turn down 121 time" was his argument. Oh yes I can. I could care less if I fly 135 or 121. But others think that 121 is the only way to go. Not true. Get a 135 job or a corporate job and you'll make more money early in your career and you can still move up the majors if you want to. BTW, tell your husband there are many very good paying corporate jobs out there, you just have to be agressive to get them.

 

[wifeofpilot]

WRONG AIRLINE!!! IFLYFORFOOD... GUESS AGAIN!

AND I am on my own log in.

I just happen to be logged onto our home computer at the time
and it defaulted to his log in. You are very bitter. You obviously
didn't get the fact that I support you pilots and have a lot of
sympathy for your cause. And you didn't get the point I made that times have changed since 911, so it's time for contracts to change.


My husband is too busy commuting to even read this message
board!

 

[pilotyip]

4 yr degree

see that is why a 4 yr degree is so improtant in a pilot's career.
Why without a 4 yr degree he might not have gotten the job.

 

[wifeofpilot]

HUH?

 

[SDdriver]

Pilotyip,

Look I do not want to bring about a long discussion here, but what in the world are you talking about a 4yr degree for?? I never heard that subject come into this thread... Also, I have friends out there with 2 and 3 degrees and they can't find work. These days a degree is not as important as it use to be, now please everyone, I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NOT IMPORTANT, IT IS, so don't flame the hell out of me, but before I got mine, I NEVER had a problem getting a job and it NEVER came up in an interview.

I believe that the times we live in now require more technical types of training than a run of the mill degree. I have numerous friends that don't have degrees and have excelled in their fields because they were trained specifically for that field and they are very technically proficient. One problem with that is, that is all you are trained for and you don’t become a, “well rounded person”, as everyone has always said getting a degree makes you. Like it really makes a difference to your well roundedness. To be absolutely honest, my 4 yr degree has not helped me in an obvious way since I obtained it. What I mean by that is, no employer has ever said, if you wouldn’t have had that degree we wouldn’t have hired you, or we were looking at someone without a degree and you with the degree and we chose you because you had the degree, that has never happened and I have always become pretty close with all of the personnel people that have hired me and they said that the degree was never really a factor, it was more my skill and the way I spoke and presented myself that made the difference. Now I know someone is going to make the argument that the degree helped me to be like that, maybe or maybe not, but I can say this, basically all my degree has done for me in an obvious sense is put me about $45,000 in debt for a very long time. I have mixed feeling about having it, but I guess I am glad I did. Hey just my PERSONAL opinion of my PERSONAL situation, I am not trying to convince anyone to my beliefs, so don’t flame me to bad ok. Sorry I got long winded, I just had to write that student loan check about a day ago and the degree thing kind of got to me, I would have rather been spending that money on my son, not a loan. Take care guys..


SD

 

[DarnNearaJet]

Two words: Kit Darby

 

[trainerjet]

Two words: Kit Darby

Three words: GET OVER IT!!

 

[Brett Hull]

4 year degree

I don't have one (but I'm working on it) and I've had three job offers and declined an interview with Comair (because of the pay), all since last July.

 

[bobbysamd]

What?

see that is why a 4 yr degree is so improtant in a pilot's career.
Why without a 4 yr degree he might not have gotten the job.

Objection, Your Honor, irrelevant.

Perhaps the degree doesn't help a pilot get a job in an overt way, but maybe in more subtle ways, such as just being able to list it on a resume. It probably was noticed and it gave you the edge over other applicants. Not to mention that having an education might help you present yourself well.

I second Thomas Petzinger as more suggested reading for WifeofPilot.

 

[328dude]

I'm going to guess he/she fly's for Airways which did not request furlughed pilot's to give up senority if they came to a wholly owned. I don't have a clue about Delta or the other majors and how they worked out senority. I think the affiliates did, which begs where your husband/you are flying a RJ at if he is flying at Airways.

Heck, I have a two leg commute to and from work that take's me 6 hours each way on a good day, don't give me this crap about being to busy. It's not as bad as you make it sound.

 

[wifeofpilot]

Nope not Airways... guess again!


Two leg commute--yikes! I'm glad the commute doesn't bother you.

And this is wife of pilot logged in under her own log in.
Home computer defaulted to my husbands.

I am new to the board.

 

[328dude]

I'm not guessing anymore. If you want people to know then just tell us. Enough of these games. I hope it's not Eastern.

I never said the commute didn't bother me.