I’m confused I thought the PNCL TA was industry leading?

[captjim]

XJT Contract 2004 (Concessionary)

Current Year, Concessionary Pay
1 61.42
2 63.25
3 65.17
4 67.11
5 69.14
6 71.21
7 72.62
8 74.80
9 77.04
10 79.35
11 81.73
12 84.18
13 86.71
14 89.31
15 91.10
16 92.93
17 94.78
18 96.68


401k Matching
1-5 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%

Defined Contribution Plan (B Plan)
Automatically deposited into 401k
1-5 years 2.5%
5-10 years 4%
10-15 years 5%
15-20 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%

Profit Sharing
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income


Line Holder guarantee: 75 hours
Reserve guarantee: 75 hours
Charter guarantee: 90 hours
Instructor guarantee: 90 hours

Current Per Diem Rate: $1.80

Vacation Accrual Rate
• Year 1: 7 days (7/12 days per month)
• Year 2-6: 14 days (14/12 days per month)
• Year 7-10: 21 days (21/12 days per month)
• Year 11+: 28 days (28/12 days per month)
Pay is 3.75 hours per day.
Paid the greater of monthly guarantee or line value. May pick up trips during vacation days or days off as add pay.
Instructors receive two additional personal days and holidays off with pay.

Compensation:
Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled block time
• Actual block time flown by segment
• Min daily guarantee of 2.00 hours
• 3.00 hours for calender day layover
100% cancellation pay
100% deadhead pay

SCHEDULING:
Line Holder: Min 12 days off per month
Reserve: Min 11 days off per 30 day bid period; Min 12 days off per 31 day bid period
Charter: Min 14 days off per month
Charter pilots are home based
Instructor: Min 12 days off per month

Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school

40 & 60 hour Reduced Flying Lines (RFL) - voluntary
Built between 37-43 or 57 - 63 hours respectively
Minimum of 18 or 16 days off per month respectively
Can trip trade but cannot pick up on days off
Can pick up Advertised trips

No Fly Lines (NFL) - voluntary
Monthly guarantee of 0, 25, or 40, as requested, paid out from sick bank
Cannot pick up open time or advertised trips

Pilot Committee builds trips and lines.
Scheduled or rescheduled duty day will not exceed 13.5 hours or
11.5 hours for duty that begins between 2101LT to 0429LT (except for stand up trips).
Stand up trips not scheduled to exceed 14 hours, no layovers of less than 6 hours, and a maximum of 3 segments preceding the layover, and a maximum of 1 segment following the layover. These trips will not be built into lines; they will only be put in open time.
Maximum of six legs per duty day.
Regular lines will not average more than 88 block hours and no lines are built with more than 95 hours.
At least 2 days free from all duty will be scheduled between trips that operate between 0100 LT and 0400 LT and trips that do not operate between this period.
Trips will only be constructed with one to four day trips.
Lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period.
A trip that operates between 0100 LT and 0400 LT will be constructed with no more than 2 segments.
Personal Drop with adequate coverage or crew scheduling consent.
Bad Day Worse Day Trades for line holders and reserve pilots
Reserve Rules
-Airport Standby (4 hours) - paid at 4 hours or trip value, whichever is greater. Cannot be assigned more than 2 consecutive days or more than 6 days a bid period.
-Short Call Reserve - 2 hour call out.
-Long Call Reserve (at least 10% of reserve lines) - 12 hour call out. Can be assigned short call two times per bid period.
-Aggressive Pick Up Window for reserve pilots.
-Floating Reserve Lines - 2 extra days off.
-The largest block of days off (or whatever other block of days off you specify) for reserve pilots are immovable.
-If reserves fly more than 71.25 they can request to be released or paid 3.75 for each addition duty day the rest of the bid month (If called or not)
Junior Manning is at 150% of the greater of: 3.75 Hours per duty period or trip pay as calculated
No reassignment of line holder for trip picked up in open time
RED FLAG Open time can be picked up by line holders at JM pay (150%).
Commuter Clause: must have two flights with one seat available (can include the jumpseat) 24 hours before departure that arrives at least 30 minutes prior to show time.
Domicile trades on monthly basis
No fault fatigue policy - filed under ASAP
No fault sick call policy if accompanied by doctor's note

New Hires:• Double Occupancy Hotel
• Uniforms are Payroll Deducted
• Per Diem during training ~$1500
• Once PC is complete, you begin receiving MMG (minimum monthly guarantee)
• Positive space travel provided to and from training and Home of record

Other pay Credits
• Drug Alcohol testing (30 minutes pay)
• CBT / Home study (1 hour pay for 2 hour study)
• Profit Sharing
• Customs at hubs (10 minutes pay)
• Ground repositioning (12 minutes for domestic airport except EWR, 24 minutes for EWR, 30 minutes for arrival from international destination)
• 150% pay for voluntarily training on day off
• 150% pay for trips picked up when reserve coverage is less than 10%

Ground Instructor pays: applicable longevity rate plus $12/hour override.
Aircraft/Simulator Instructor pays: applicable longevity rate plus $15/hour override.
Check Airman pays: applicable longevity rate plus $18/hour override.
Aircrew Program Designee pays: applicable longevity rate plus $21/hour override.
Minimum 5 hours per training event at override rate.
Charter pays: applicable longevity rate plus $18/hour override.
Minimum 5.5 hours per day at override rate.

Perfect Attendance Program
Two separate six month periods

Eligibility for FMLA
Yes, 90 days- entitlement codified into contract

Emergency Leave
Up to 3 days with no reduction of monthly guarantee

Bereavement Leave
Four consecutive days with no reduction of monthly guarantee

Education Leave
A pilot may be granted an educational leave for a period not to exceed 1 year. At the end of the leave, he may apply for
additional educational leave.

Personal Leave
A personal leave of absence may be requested by a pilot

Adoption Assistance Program
Reimbursement for eligible adoption expenses

Scholarship Program
Assist employees, their children, or spouses who plan to continue education in college or vocational school programs. Scholarships are offered each year for study at an accredited institution of the student’s choice. Up to 15 awards for $1,500 dollars will be granted each year.

W.I.N.G.S. Program
When In Need Get Support – An employee-funded program for co-workers overcome by personal tragedies, natural disasters, or other situations creating a dire financial need.

Uniforms:
$150/year uniform allowance

Benefits:
Company will not increase the employee contribution to medical insurance to more than 25% (currently 23%)
Various health plans – (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment)
Available health plans depend on location and level of coverage ($15-230/mo depending on # covered and deductible)
Prescription Drug Plan included in the medical plans
Dental (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment) $18-102/mo depending on HMO/PPO and # covered
Vision $10.24-25.44/mo depending on # covered
Flexible Spending Accounts - Health Care and Dependent Care
Short-term Disability
Long-term Disability- 55% of 85.5 hours at your applicable longevity rate
Life Insurance - equal to one year of your annual base pay paid by the company. Includes a terminal illness benefit.
Supplemental Life Insurance
Spouse Life Insurance
Child Life Insurance
Personal Accident Insurance -Provides a benefit if you die or suffer certain injuries as a result of a covered accident. Coverage available for you and your family.coverage between $50k - $500k
Business Accident Insurance - Provides benefits if you are injured while traveling on company business; $200,000 paid by the company

Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP is a professional, confidential counseling service. The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area. Your consultations will be kept confidential.

Employee Stock Purchase Plan
Active employees can purchase XJT stock through payroll deductions at a 15% discount

Other Stuff:
Participates in ASAP and FOQA. In the process of getting AQP certification.
Bidding can be done via online system. Bid via default (line number order), or assign values to re-order the lines for yourself. You can pick how you want them ordered based on line value, types of trips (1day / 2day), days off, etc.
Automated trip trades, trip advertisements, and picking up of dropped trips of other crew members and open time via crew web site.

 

[e=mc2]

It is really about APLA, i.e. unions, not being able to get it done. They are scrap eaters at Phil's Table since all they care about is your dues money. Everybody knows unions are obsolete, membership has been falling for 30 years. Pilots are just to ignorant to catch on.

 

[RJLoser]

The real question is can ASA and XJT match the gains from the old contract to the new that this contract did?

 

[Flyprdu]

I'm sorry guys. Pinnacle does not have Block or Better. They have Trip Value or Better. Please do not confuse the two.

 

[Skywest Pylot]

It is really about APLA, i.e. unions, not being able to get it done. They are scrap eaters at Phil's Table since all they care about is your dues money. Everybody knows unions are obsolete, membership has been falling for 30 years. Pilots are just to ignorant to catch on.

Just wait until you see the pathetic pay package the SkyWest pilots are about to vote in. Ignorance is an understatement.

 

[ualdriver]

I’m so sick of the joint MEC saying it’s an industry leading TA when here is PNCL mgmt laughing at us all the way to the bank.
From the 4th Q conference call by Phil Trenary

“We'll have our release going out a bit later this afternoon but our pilots at all three carriers, Pinnacle, Mesaba and Colgan have ratified the tentative agreement that we agreed on. So we expect to sign that agreement later today and as indeed very good news. It lets us have a five-year industry standard contract; it's a very competitive contract and will help out tremendously as we focus on integration plan going into 2011."

Now in full disclosure I voted yes. I thought we would never get better than industry standard but I never thought it was more than industry standard to begin with. Operating income was only 14mil last Q with mgmt saying the contract will increase costs only 18mil/yr and operating income should be much better in 2012

Consider his audience when he spoke those words. He's not going to tell his shareholders and the business media that he just gave away an industry leading contract (assuming it is, I don't know). It is kind of like when a Middle Eastern despot shakes hands with Western leaders on one day and then turns around on another day and blames the West for all of his country's woes when he is talking to "his people."

 

[Simon Says]

OK, I concede. Maybe its not industry leading, but worthwhile. Not so bad in the work rules, but do-able. Current contract pay not too bad. I truly do wish the best for ASA and XJT. Its your turn up at bat. Go get-em.

 

[joepilot29]

"No fault sick call policy if accompanied by doctor's note"

We at OH still have the industry leading sick call policy! You don't even set off a red flag until 20 sick calls in a calender year. And that gets you a call from a CP for a slap on the wrist if they are actually in the office.....Which is never!

 

[redflyer65]

What's going on with the Pinnacle bonus money? Did the MEC chairman really screw up the language?

Sounds like lawsuits to follow.

 

[CptMurf]

I'm sorry guys. Pinnacle does not have Block or Better. They have Trip Value or Better. Please do not confuse the two.

The "trip value" or "credit" is based off the last 150 occurrences of the flight or "SAT". These SAT times are used to calculate the pay or "credit" for the trip, which should be more than the average block time. Since these change, they are published once a month. If you block less than this credit, then you are paid the credit. If you block more than this credit, then you are paid what you blocked. This has become known as "block or better" in the industry, which we have.

Don't let the semantics trip you up "trip value or better" is "block or better" since trip value should always equal or exceed average block. If for some reason it didn't (Like a new city), everyone would overblock (which they would get paid for) and after 150 occurrences of the flight SAT time would increase and credit for the flight would be adjusted.

 

[higney85]

What's going on with the Pinnacle bonus money? Did the MEC chairman really screw up the language?

Sounds like lawsuits to follow.

The official language hasn't even been released yet.

 

[DoinTime]

This has become known as "block or better" in the industry, which we have.

"Block or better" in the industry is a contraction from "scheduled block or actual block, whichever is better". What we have is "averaged actual block or actual block, whichever is better". Scheduled block is generally higher than average actual block because the airlines like to build in a buffer so that they stay on time. A few carriers use this averaging system or something similar but its not as lucrative as systems that compare the actual schedule with actual block. Maybe next time we improve on this.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

True usually it is a couple minutes less than actual block. Occasionally it works in our favor and is actually paying over block from the start. Overall it's really not much of a difference. I would say our leg by leg guarantee is a much bigger improvement than switching to a true block or better. Now we won't have scheduling pull our middle turn on the last day just to bring us back down to trip guarantee. Good for the lineholder that doesn't have 3 hours overtime stolen from them, good for the reserve that now isn't called in to fly that turn for no reason other than to take money away from a fellow pilot.

 

[Flyprdu]

True usually it is a couple minutes less than actual block. Occasionally it works in our favor and is actually paying over block from the start. Overall it's really not much of a difference.

Before making blanket statements, I would check with the JFK pilots how trip value or better is working out for them. Their scheduled block times are usually padded with 30 minutes+.

Now we won't have scheduling pull our middle turn on the last day just to bring us back down to trip guarantee. Good for the lineholder that doesn't have 3 hours overtime stolen from them, good for the reserve that now isn't called in to fly that turn for no reason other than to take money away from a fellow pilot.

Have you seen our schedules lately? Getting back to guarantee is something that doesn't happen at 9E. They would never burn a reserve to cover "too much flying" of a line holder. Besides, all the reserves are covering open time.

Rationalize if you will, but anything that takes money out of the pockets of pilots is not a good thing.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

That was a Mesaba perspective... Much like many other sections of the contract some of the Pinnacle guys have had issues with because of the different cultures and enforcements of the contract, this is a similar situation. For my experiences at Mesaba, it's largely a wash.

 

[relief tube]

Having said it is average, I can back up my claim by saying about half the regionals still have better contracts.

way to not lower the bar. but it wasn't raised either.

The bar has been, diluted.

 

[dojetdriver]

I remember when the XJT 2004 contract came out...Neal Schwartz was on this board explaining that while XJT's payrates were not the highest in the industry, XJT pilots would have the highest W2s in the industry - even higher than Comair - due to work rules.

Part of that workrules thing was based on profit sharing. XJT was operating at a cost + 10% at the time. Profit? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I truly do wish the best for ASA and XJT. Its your turn up at bat. Go get-em.

SKW didn't do us any favors recently. Wishing for the best on the JCBA, but preparing for the worst.

 

[sinkrate]

That was a Mesaba perspective... Much like many other sections of the contract some of the Pinnacle guys have had issues with because of the different cultures and enforcements of the contract, this is a similar situation. For my experiences at Mesaba, it's largely a wash.

I wouldn't call it a 'Mesaba perspective', it is and old NWA perspective. NWA had the three most reliable hubs in the inductry, and their marketing times reflected that. As more of your business moves to NY and ATL (it will) you will discover the pain of working in a marketing system that melts down by nine most mornings.

 

[bluefly72]

The real question is can ASA and XJT match the gains from the old contract to the new that this contract did?

Are familiar with a term "catch-up effect"?

 

[CptMurf]

I wouldn't call it a 'Mesaba perspective', it is and old NWA perspective. NWA had the three most reliable hubs in the inductry, and their marketing times reflected that. As more of your business moves to NY and ATL (it will) you will discover the pain of working in a marketing system that melts down by nine most mornings.

I would call it a Mesaba perspective, XJs performance numbers would agree. We've been flying to NY and ATL for years with no difference in operations than any other city.

Hopefully, this is one of those items that is fixed with the merger.