Hows the Falcon 20?

[pilotyip]

Anyone have any basic info on the 20? Like weights, range, etc. I know it may depend on engines just ballparking.

GE powered DA-20 28,660 MGTOW, Empty Pax 18,500, Max Fuel 8000-9000 depending upon model, 9,000 fuel pay load around 1000 pounds. Range M.72 at FL350 3.5 hours depending winds 1000-1500 miles

 

[Gearmonkey]

Anyone have any basic info on the 20? Like weights, range, etc. I know it may depend on engines just ballparking.

I fly both the CF-700 and TFE731 powered Falcons. Both engines are very dependable but of course the 731's burn a fraction of the fuel. Max ZFW is 22,000 on both and your basic speed limits are Vmo-350 and Mmo-0.85, later models and some service bulletins up it to a little higher, but that is basically it.

Basic and D models with CF-700-2D-2's has a MTOW of 28,660, MLW of 27,320. A "D" model will hold in the neighborhood of 8400 pounds of fuel which allows you to do 2+45ish and land with reserves. Basics hold a little less, more like 7800-8000. My longest leg non-RVSM is about 1200nm. I plan for 420 knots burning 2400 pph total although it usually ends up being a little less.

I fly a Basic-5(731 motors) as well and the MTOW is 29,100 and this one in particular holds about 7800 pounds of fuel. MLW is 27,734. You will basically burn about 1500 pounds per hour and get 430ish in the mid 30's. I haven't done any long legs in it yet but 1800-2000nm should be no problem.

 

[imisscorplife]

Thanks for the info guys!! I find out today which N# Falcon 20 I might be flying.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

In a freighter, big feeders, GE engines, I flew 4+05 flight time and landed with 1600#s. Block 4+15. (YIP-ELP) Wow!

Never again..so sorry, charlie!

cliff
MCI

 

[imisscorplife]

Just found out that they want to type me in the 20 as Co-Cpt. The plane has the newer engines and glass cockpit. I will be back in 7-10 days for an offer from them. Cant wait! Very excited! Thanks for all great info everyone!!

 

[stupidpilot]

So you have the BR-5 mod then?

 

[imisscorplife]

So you have the BR-5 mod then?

Not sure, he said it has a glass cockpit upgrade and the newer engines. Plane just had C check and 1 engine is getting a hot section done and the other engine only has 4000 hrs on it. I will know more in a week and will get to see pics of it as well. Its purchased and going through a inspection with all squawks getting taken care of currently.

 

[stupidpilot]

If I'm not mistaken the only glass cockpit mod is the BR-5 conversion. Anyone else know for sure?

 

[AMDFlyer]

If I'm not mistaken the only glass cockpit mod is the BR-5 conversion. Anyone else know for sure?

Not necessarily you can have a 731-5BR fitted Falcon 20 with or without a glass cockpit installation. it was at discretion of the client to proceed and have also the avionics mod on top of engines retrofit and Garrett APU as well.

 

[PUNISHER]

If I'm not mistaken the only glass cockpit mod is the BR-5 conversion. Anyone else know for sure?

There are several -5ARs flying with glass retrofits. It's like AMD said, its all depends on what the client had purchased.

 

[SquirrelDog]

Tucson - Detroit

Flew a CF700 falcon from TUS to YIP once. Over 1600 st miles at 3.5 hrs, not even in the feeders yet.

Great plane, was made for freight!

 

[stupidpilot]

Well, since I kept calling it a BR5 and not a 5 BR, obviously I didn't know what the hell I was talking about!

 

[Gearmonkey]

Hi!

In a freighter, big feeders, GE engines, I flew 4+05 flight time and landed with 1600#s. Block 4+15. (YIP-ELP) Wow!
cliff
MCI

What took you so long!

Our -5AR has the glass mod. The ADI is still the old style but still nice.

You gotta have them big feeders if you want to go to the West Coast, that's what I heard!

 

[tathepilot]

that's what I heard!

You boyz r gonna like dem big feederz..