Hows the Falcon 20?

[stupidpilot]

Our "glass" 20-5 is serial 24 and supposedly flew the Beatles around. Yep, she's that old.

Was she painted yellow?

 

[Gearmonkey]

Was she painted yellow?

lol no, it did have a gold stripe when we got it though, it kinda looked yellow. It also has a little skylight in the lav, is that normal on pax falcons?

 

[stupidpilot]

No clue.

 

[cherry20's]

Our "glass" 20-5 is serial 24 and supposedly flew the Beatles around. Yep, she's that old.

We got Elvis Presleys old 20, N216CA.

Also think we have serial #7, N207CA, I'll have to check on it though.

 

[cherry20's]

I lied, 207 is like 130 serial #

216 is serial #11, thats the oldest one we got. It was flying great until they pulled the motors off of it a year ago. The only other real old one we have is #17, 234CA. It still flys great.

 

[TXDA2000]

I could be off with the serial number/date, but thats what the chief tells me(of course he has been known to confuse it with some of the 50's in the fleet)...

by the way it will be up for sale if anyone is interested.

You have 486. We had 471 out of the same batch of about 15 that were the last delivered.

Fantastic aircraft.

 

[sleepy]

I consider the DA-50EX's I fly old, so a 20 is really old.

 

[Gearmonkey]

I lied, 207 is like 130 serial #

216 is serial #11, thats the oldest one we got. It was flying great until they pulled the motors off of it a year ago. The only other real old one we have is #17, 234CA. It still flys great.

More than you can say about an old Learjet. We have 25 #5. She's not too bad but every Lear flies different from the other, especially the high time ones up around the 20k mark. As far as the Falcon goes, some may be a little more twisted than others, but once you trim them up, they all fly the same.

 

[JJET44]

What would be a good replacment for the 20? We're tossin around the idea of a Sovereign.

 

[sleepy]

What would be a good replacment for the 20? We're tossin around the idea of a Sovereign.

We had a Sovereign that we got from a company we bought. We sold it, but it was not a bad aircraft. I got maybe 60 hour in it before it was gone. It's slow though (VMO is Mach .80), so you will miss the speed of Falcon.

 

[Slyny]

We're looking at a possible replacement for our 20. It would be nice to move up to a "super-midsize" cabin. Several different aircraft have come up in discussion--G200, Hawker 4000, and the G250 (when it comes out). Unfortunately the initial price range that the chairman threw out there was $12-14 mil, and I know the a/c I mentioned are at least twice that. I wish they would make a bigger jump and get a Falcon 2000!

 

[keithbjaz]

amazing aircraft, handles like a dream! i recently retired serial number 5, was the lowest serial falcon still flying in the world. she was a young 43 years old and she still kicked azz!

Old is right. I flew DA-20's with Fedex in 1972! Only 6 of them had the cargo door mod then (6 of 33 they owned). Great airplane, bad job (then), left in '73.

 

[Gearmonkey]

Old is right. I flew DA-20's with Fedex in 1972! Only 6 of them had the cargo door mod then (6 of 33 they owned). Great airplane, bad job (then), left in '73.

That's awesome! I am still flying the same airplanes, the FedEx birds are the best freighters we have in the fleet! Serials 227 and 229 are flying right now with 226 on deck to come online eventually. They have about 32,000 hours each on them.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Flown the 50, 900B, and 900EX. Did not know the 20 had trailing link gear. Wonder why they went back.

On the 50 they dumped the trailing link to make room for more fuel (in the belly). That's what they say any way.

We're looking at a possible replacement for our 20. It would be nice to move up to a "super-midsize" cabin. Several different aircraft have come up in discussion--G200, Hawker 4000, and the G250 (when it comes out). Unfortunately the initial price range that the chairman threw out there was $12-14 mil, and I know the a/c I mentioned are at least twice that. I wish they would make a bigger jump and get a Falcon 2000!

If you're thinking super-midsize my vote is for the Legacy 600 if you can get your boss to fork over the $$$. Great jet. Reliable. Big. Comfy. Cheap to operate. Easy to fly.

 

[JJET44]

If you're thinking super-midsize my vote is for the Legacy 600 if you can get your boss to fork over the $$$. Great jet. Reliable. Big. Comfy. Cheap to operate. Easy to fly.

I'm sure that it's WAY out of our price range. What does one go for? Plus our hanger Clearance is low.

 

[stupidpilot]

More than you can say about an old Learjet. We have 25 #5. She's not too bad but every Lear flies different from the other, especially the high time ones up around the 20k mark. As far as the Falcon goes, some may be a little more twisted than others, but once you trim them up, they all fly the same.

Are you sure it's #5? I thought AJI's oldest LR25 was #11.

 

[imisscorplife]

What would be the salary range for an FO on a Falcon 20 flying about 250-300 hours a year for a CEO? I will have benefits (health,401k, etc.) too! Thanks!

 

[Gearmonkey]

Are you sure it's #5? I thought AJI's oldest LR25 was #11.

AJI? I don't work for no stinkin' AJI! CK baby all the way, lol. We have a couple oldies, we have the #3 Falcon 20 too stuffed away in a hanger in Northern Michigan. Had the 7th Lear built ever, the 23 Younkin flew in airshows after he got it off of us.

 

[Crobar]

What would be the salary range for an FO on a Falcon 20 flying about 250-300 hours a year for a CEO? I will have benefits (health,401k, etc.) too! Thanks!

That's about what a pilot at Netjets flys and here's their pay scale, great benifits package and $69,188. salary starting first day of indoc
http://www.netjets.com/NetJets_Pilots/pdfs/Pilots.pay.benefits.package.pdf

 

[big pimpn']

What would be a good replacment for the 20? We're tossin around the idea of a Sovereign.

Hawker 800A