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Gearmunky

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OK guys/girls, I figured that this would be the best place to find an answer to this question considering we all do the same thing for a living.

I need to know how one says "No" in a proffesional manner without getting on the other guy's bad side or make him mad. I'd prefer not to go into details because of the thought of prying eyes, but this is really eating at me. I feel like I'm starting to get taken advantage of, and want it to end before it gets worse.

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks.
 
Hey man, if she's movin' too fast tell her you want to wait until your married.
 
No. N - O

Though this probably doesn't apply to your situation, it did remind me of an old NFL film with the coach giving the newbies (uh...I mean rookies) a little piece of advice considering their new wealth in the NFL.

No means no!

Maybe means no!!

Yes means no in the morning!!!

Anyway...good luck with your situation.

2000Flyer
 
Come on Munky,

I only asked you to wash and wax my truck and car, rake up my yard, paint the fences and clean up after the dog.

It is what all gear bitc^es are expected to do for their Capt. LOL ;)
 
Hmmmm, (Medievel Judge Theodoric of York ponders the dilemma)

Nice way #1: Tell him at hotel at check-in that you bought him an all-day adult film selection on Spectravision right before you tell him "No, ain't nothing gonna happen with us".

Nice way #2: Tell him right before refueling FBO freebie redemption, he'll forgot immediately just like number 1.

Not nice way but profitable: You're in a Gulfstream, seek psyc help about harrasment issues, break down on video during sim ride about pressure, file lawsuit and then own your own Gulfstream, then hire me as a cabin boy so I can repeat the cycle.:D

Humor aside, good luck.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way, but unfortuneately it looks like you are pretty replaceable. No offense. I would imagine that someone hires an 800+ hour pilot to pull gear in a G4......as well as all of the other stuff that somebody with more experience would say no to. I hope you are not in one of those "single pilot" G4's where the Captain only wants gear up, flaps up, shut up.

I guess you can either sit it out and gain some more time and maybe a type rating, or you can put your foot down and risk having to find another job.

My suggestion to you is to sit down and simply talk to your employer. Ask him what exactly he expects of you both in and outside of the cockpit. If the answers to your questions are not acceptable to you, start looking for other employment.

I know, I know.........easier said than done. I wish you the best of luck.
 
Well with out really knowing what you are saying no to. There is only one way to say that I know of and that is NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't think of any other way to say it.
 
seriously, if you aren't going to give us some details dont expect any useful advice other than to grow a set of balls and speak your mind.

what are you expecting here other than that?

:confused: .
 
Hey, I'll ask the obvious question...

The captain want's to bang you, right?

Well, no means no, and I'd tell him that then head over to HR if he persits. And I'd tell him that too.

Very simple.

No job on earth is worth your dignity.
 
Without knowing the situation, it makes it difficult to give good advice. But then again free advice is cheap.

One thing I have noticed on this board and others like it, is a certain negativity. Sometimes you have to say no without saying no. Saying no is easy. Saying we can't do it that way, but we can accomplish what you want this way, is much harder. It seems very few people can do that.

Pick your battles.
 
Given your experience level, I would expect that you were hired because you could easily be managed and/or manipulated. You might just find that saying no is a "bet your bar" type of decision. Which is to say, is it important enough to bet your job on? With your experience, unless you have an initial at SimuFlite or FS under your belt, you are extremely replaceable.

That being said, if safety is benig compromised, then look for a way to solve the safety problem without getting into a power struggle with the guy. I would bet that since he has hired someone with such low experience, that he has an ego problem and has a hard time hearing that he might be making bad decisions.

Your best bet with a safety issue would be to lead him to the solution so that it is "his idea". I have found this works very well with ego maniacs. Anyway, best of luck.
 

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