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Prader would have the Comair guys walk off the line and tell management to "just grieve it". Why? Cause we can afford it. Would we lose the lawsuit? Sure. But the point would be proven. The man has said this....and to my face. And if management thinks they can get away with this without any consequences, will be sadly mistaken.

ALPA is in a GREAT financial situation. In fact, better than it has been since the mid 80's. Our union could easily afford to support the Comair pilots if they choose to walk off the line in a few days. I just hope our ALPA leadership supports this action.

Mesa Captain

Fly2002,

It sounds like you're truly gung-ho for ALPA, and ALPA needs more people like you. I'm curious as to what excuse you think ALPA will use in response to the Bankruptcy Judge blocking a strike? I highlighted an important point you made for me; that ALPA relies on blind hope from the pilot groups. The days of the unions are over, they served their purpose, but management has adapted to their tactics and beaten them. Go ahead and buy into all the feel good rhetoric. As long as you're doing that, I got some nice beach front property in Nebraska I'd like to sell you.
 
737

Hey 737, please scan a copy of your voided check and post it here. The CMR pilot group would like some proof that you DAL Widgets were willing to support us during our strike. As an added benefit, we will find your address and black jack your pretentious ass. "Wannabe DAL pilots?" I would rather lick Grinstein's balloon knot than wear your double breasted uniform. Go back to your own threads and let us fight this without you f's again!
 
Oh yes, I wanna be a real Delta pilot...is it just my imagination, or is there a larger population of a**holes at Delta than at any other legacy airline?
its always been that way....wouldn't it be ironic if DL were to NOT make it as one of the legacy airlines left standing at the end of all this?
 
The DL boys are about to be stapled to the bottom of US Air's list.....737, I woudn't stand on the board and crow to loudly about 700 rates, you might be flying one in the right seat before long.
 
Oh yes, I wanna be a real Delta pilot...is it just my imagination, or is there a larger population of a**holes at Delta than at any other legacy airline?

Your imagination! We just don't like little pricks like you Dave. You find glory in other peoples' demise! Airlineapps is accepting online resumes right now. PM me and let me know your name and app. # so I can be sure and help you out in the interview process!

ohplease! said:
its always been that way....wouldn't it be ironic if DL were to NOT make it as one of the legacy airlines left standing at the end of all this?
Alan:
You better hope DL doesn't go under, because after ASA, you will be screwed trying to get another job as a "wanna be manager." Of course there's always Chick fil a!

Palerider957 said:
The DL boys are about to be stapled to the bottom of US Air's list.....737, I woudn't stand on the board and crow to loudly about 700 rates, you might be flying one in the right seat before long.
And who says a 2 year community college degree can't get you far.....Just goes to show your ignorance in life and how the "ALPA merger policy" works (if this deal even goes through).Work on your coffee serving skills and who gets the turkey for catering!

737
 
Fly2002,

It sounds like you're truly gung-ho for ALPA, and ALPA needs more people like you. I'm curious as to what excuse you think ALPA will use in response to the Bankruptcy Judge blocking a strike? I highlighted an important point you made for me; that ALPA relies on blind hope from the pilot groups. The days of the unions are over, they served their purpose, but management has adapted to their tactics and beaten them. Go ahead and buy into all the feel good rhetoric. As long as you're doing that, I got some nice beach front property in Nebraska I'd like to sell you.

CopilotDoug,
I'm a BOD member for ALPA and not a spokesman. With that said I don't see ALPA coming up with an excuse for a judges decision. They can't control a rouge judge that decides to legislate from the bench. The truth is that most factors have now become favorable to pilots. The airline industry is recovering. The democrats have taken control of congress. They are likely to even win the presidency. This would offset the last 8 years of republican control. The pendilum will swing the other way. ALPA lobbies with the money you give them. I personally contribute every paycheck.

I never understood the role that politics plays in our careers until I became a volunteer and saw for myself. Many ask "why haven't we changed the RLA?" "we should reduce the max duty day!". All of those ideas are great but opening that box with the current political leaders in power would have us find an unfavorable outcome. Read 20 hour max duty days, or 10hrs per day flying instead of 8. And yes this would happen.

ALPA is far from perfect because it's run by humans....pretty simple. Management has not "adapted" or beaten the pilots. They have simply had all the leverage the past few years. Most, if not all, of the leverage is now in our court.

I personally predict a resurgence of unions in the next 8 years. Within that time you will see the loopholes management used during bankrupcy closed as well.

The coming presidential election will shape A LOT of our course, and our careers.

Sorry for the spelling and grammer, I'm lazy tonight.
MESA Captain
 
How about the same support they offered to the DAL furloughees!

737

Good idea. We were 100% in favor of them getting pref. interviews. ..Oh wait, yoyu guys just wanted to walk in and have a job.
I wonder how many Comair Pilts were allowed to just walk in at Delta when we were on strike?? Oh , what? None? Thats what I thought...........
Let it go loser.
 
So which is it?

If picking up open time has no effect on recalls, why go out of your way to claim you have never greenslipped while Delta has guys on the street?

You keep reminding us that we're separate companies. Fine. Did Delta pilots demand Alaska, Spirit, or Midwest Express hire their furloughees without having to resign their number? No?

I've got an idea. Give it a rest. You're in way over your head. The Delta pilots do not have the moral high ground to lecture Comair pilots on their obligation to your furloughees.

DITTO!! These guys eat their youg and scream at us to hide it.
 
I'll spell it out.....I HAVEN'T picked up open time in 10 years! If you can't understand that, then you're beyond comprehension!


Matter of fact, there are quite a number of furloughees working at other ALPA carriers who weren't required to resign their seniority #'s. Keep working on the spin, your theories are getting weaker and you're making it way too easy! Perhaps that's why your pathetic lawsuit is doing so poorly!


No, they did their own furloughees too! Just wondering if the cmr pilots paid for their furloughees cobra benefits?
If I were you, I'd focus on the dismantling of your company, rather than aiming all of your rjdc BS the way of DALPA! The cmr pilot group has been great at screwing over fellow ALPA pilots, just ask the ASA pilots!

You guys are the ones in way over your head!

737

Jesus guy, go find a female.
 

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