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Miami Air International, just laid off 80 pilots our complete 737 FO list are all out on the pavement May 31st. All have 737NG type ratings and averge about 4000 hours each. We also laid off 25 727 captains and 20 FO's and 15 FE's. All of our FO's are now all captains that have been downgraded. We also have laid off 30 to 40 office workers and mechanic's are to follow in a few weeks.
 
Hawaiian has recalled all their furloughees. They're back in training and should be flying in a couple weeks.

Rumors have us hiring again this fall or winter, but that's just a rumor.

HAL
 
Do you guys have your 180 minute ETOPS approval for the 737-800? We just got ours, I should be in HNL for a 5 day layover this weekend.
 
We don't have the 737. That is Aloha Airlines.

We have 767-300's, and yes, we got 180 minute ETOPS with the delivery of the first plane. As for Aloha and their -800's, I haven't heard yet what their status is.

HAL
 
Wow

Now that sucks!!!



TurboS7 said:
Miami Air International, just laid off 80 pilots our complete 737 FO list are all out on the pavement May 31st. All have 737NG type ratings and averge about 4000 hours each. We also laid off 25 727 captains and 20 FO's and 15 FE's. All of our FO's are now all captains that have been downgraded. We also have laid off 30 to 40 office workers and mechanic's are to follow in a few weeks.
 
ATA will have new hire pilot classes in June and July. Professional Flight Engineers have been furloughed due to the retiring of the 727 fleet. Also, Chicago Express, ATA's regional airline is hiring pilots too.
 
Piedmont, I'm holding on with both hands!!

Its kinda like in the movie Aliens when they do the freefall drop out of orbit onto the planet surface, thats me.
 
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Turbo-
I thought all was looking positive for Miami Air.? (one hullava paint scheme)- see your 27's in IND quite abit and I hear nothing but good things about you guys...

Anyone know about Sky West if they are back up and hiring.?

C H E E R S
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(135 & not 121 competitive or "qualified")-lol M
 
One of those sink holes that you see in South Florida opened up right at the Miami --------- Intenational part. We had 2 737 lease deals fall through due to ego's of the parties. Also we had one of our main backers to our cargo operation pull out on us, things change in a hurry and we couldn't keep up. We'll be back, we just need 6 months to get on our feet again.
 
CoEx has almost 500 on the street still, that group is a mix of mainline and Expressers on the street. I think there is something close to 300 or so other CAL flowbacks at XJT as well.
 
Busy at MCO

For what it is worth, when I fly out of Orlando as a passenger (usually via NWA, USA, DAL, or SWA) the flights I am on seem to be 90%+ full. Also seems like when I'm on the connecting flight going to wherever, they're pretty full too.
Speculate this is due to reducing number of flights thus the bean counters are able to maximize yields. There are probably stats indicating load factors and overall passenger numbers before and after September. But sitting in the back, it sure doesn't "feel" like things have slowed down.
 
Re: Busy at MCO

SDF2BUF2MCO said:
For what it is worth, when I fly out of Orlando as a passenger (usually via NWA, USA, DAL, or SWA) the flights I am on seem to be 90%+ full. Also seems like when I'm on the connecting flight going to wherever, they're pretty full too.
Speculate this is due to reducing number of flights thus the bean counters are able to maximize yields. There are probably stats indicating load factors and overall passenger numbers before and after September. But sitting in the back, it sure doesn't "feel" like things have slowed down.


Yeah a lot of flights are full now. Load factor is way up. The only problem is they are practically giving seats away, aparently. Full flight still might not make any money.


ACA is doing ok for now. We're hiring 350-400 this year supposedly. Dojet operation is in limbo with Fairchild/Dornier's financial problems. We have all our DAL Dorks, but only have a few FRJs on the UAL side. Hence, it looks like the J-41s will be around a little bit longer than expected. CRJs will be coming again after the delay caused by their strike.

Patriot
 
I just got back from HNL and went through OKC on the way home. While I was waiting for AA I saw the Dornier with Patriot Airlines, interesting opeation. How do you fair fuel and range wise with a full load going to ABQ out of OKC. The passengers sure seemed to be happy about going non-stop. ....
 
Cotinental Express AKA Express Jet Airlines, 368 on furlough, 64 Main Line on furlough, 224 flowbacks at Express, approx. 124 on company offered leave. RJ deliveries- 4 per month until all orders and options are met. Total fleet of RJ's currently 150. Projected fleet size-274 RJ's. Pilot total expected to be 3000+.
 
DAL to lay-off additonal 900 pilots this June.( I stand corrected the news report said that." DAL will have 900 pilots furloughed this June."
 
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DAL to lay-off additonal 900 pilots this June.

Turbo, just where in the H@@l do you get this info? DAL will be up to a TOTAL of 805 as of Jul 1. For anyone who seeks honest and accurate reporting, you are NOT a good source.
 
That came right off the news wires and I don't have any responsibility for any accurate reporting, you can just take it or leave it. Kinda like the Globe-why don't you get real and lighten up.
 
I'm with MD pilot. The 900 would put Delta over the 1700 mark, and it has been reported that Delta will not lay off all 1700. My guess is probably much less with possible recalls. I hope I am right.;)
 
I was referring to a news report that said that by June DAL will have 900 on furlough. Based on info given on this board I would assume that it meant total on furlough. I am sure that those with DAL would have more accurate information.
 

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