CapnVegetto
The Prince of all Saiyans
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CapnVegetto said:I guess I suck.
English said:Now if I were Lead I would latch on to this statement...
CapnVegetto said:Dammit.....I didn't catch that Lead. I DID only get a 67 on the 'good with women' test on the Non-Aviation Related Chat forum. I guess I suck.
AA717driver said:What's the matter? 20 days a month on reserve for the next 5 years not appeal to you? I have a friend who will put a bounty on my head if I even think of going back...
As I've said before, corporate is a HUGE adjustment for those who have never done it. A lot of airline guys simply don't like the job. Sure, if I could go back to TWA in the summer of '01 I'd do it in a heartbeat. But I can't. It doesn't exist anymore--and I'm not just talking about TWA. The airline business has changed forever.
I'm sure the senior guys at AirTran, JB and SWA are having a good time--but, unlike corporate, there are no lateral moves in the airline biz.
Besides, after a couple of years of not commuting, I'm pretty set in my ways. Or maybe it's just the free vacations courtesy of Marriott Rewards... TC
cezzna said:We've interviewed regional guys before and most weren't very sharp about regs and basic knowledge. I think part of the airline menality is there are so many rules and people looking out for you that you can't screw up and become lax in self sufficiency. In the corp world it's all on you to make sure everything goes off without a hitch. The flying is usually the easy part. Catering,weather,fuel decisions,airport decisions, transportation for the pax.,maintenance on the road, pulling the plane in and out of the hangar, etc. Most airline guys don't know how to think outside of the cockpit.
Good luck
Time2Spare said:Great post. Everything you said is 100% accurate. When I was flying the Citation, I did all the flight planning, airport, fuel - there was a lot more "work" involved than there is flying for the airlines. That being said, I find it better to have a dispatcher, customer service agents, caterers, etc. doing most of the grunt work because it let's me focus entirely on flying the aircraft and dealing with our biggest challenge - the weather. Also, we have ACARS, so the ability to consult with a licensed, trained person, while in flight, is IMHO a great safety benefit that we didn't have flying the Citation.
I will lament that I was far more knowledgable about all the other items when I was in the Citation, however, not having to worry about those things has made me a better pilot - but not necessarily a better aviator.
cezzna said:QOL does vary greatly. I'm corporate and on call most of the time. That being said in five years I've been called to get to the airport for a same day flight about 3 or 4 times. I think most quality corp jobs are like this. You may be on call during business hours but RARELY get called in. I spend about 75 nights a year away from home. I eat what I want, when I want as much as I want. Unless I eat at Ruth Chris or Mortons steakhouse, it won't be questioned. I have tons of hotel points, never have to buy a night again.I Stay where I want outside of the Ritz Carleton. If the Ritz is all I can find, I'll stay there no questions asked. After a few years you trust the company and they trust you not to try and screw them over. Pay is good, benies are good,retirement is secure.
We've interviewed regional guys before and most weren't very sharp about regs and basic knowledge. I think part of the airline menality is there are so many rules and people looking out for you that you can't screw up and become lax in self sufficiency. In the corp world it's all on you to make sure everything goes off without a hitch. The flying is usually the easy part. Catering,weather,fuel decisions,airport decisions, transportation for the pax.,maintenance on the road, pulling the plane in and out of the hangar, etc. Most airline guys don't know how to think outside of the cockpit.
If you want a job, you have to show you REALLY want it. if you find a place you want to work for show up often and update them often. If your just a resume dropper once a year you'll be soon forgotten. That's how I got my first corp gig, persistence. Don't take no for an answer but don't be annoying either. A big part of any interview is " Can I stand to be with this guy in Teterboro for 5 days".
Good luck
Bandit60 said:Just wondering how ACARS made it much safer. I have AFIS and XM weather available to me in the cockpit and if all else fails i have a sat phone. I have not flown on as an airline pilot so I dont know what a "licensed, trained person" is going to do for me. Remember, I am the PIC and it is my responsiblity to make the final decision.