How is QOL at Flight Options?

[dime line]

Hey Semperfido, The diff is.......Corporate guys get paid

 

[longrangekiller]

just curious-- how is this diff from any corp job?

Corporate guy get paid to take care of the same owner (singular) not multiple owners (plural). Fractional pilots might see three of more different owners per duty day and most are upset or disturbed about the quality of service, time issues, etc.

Corporate guys do not always fly three to five legs per day during the duty rotation. Corporate guys have some stability with regard to the aircraft schedule. That is not say that corporate guys have the best work schedule out there, but for the most part, when the gear comes up the pilot is sure of the destination and has a clear idea of when he will return to home plate.

If a corporate guy takes the boss to Vegas, it is a good bet you will stay in Vegas with acft waiting on the boss rather than rush to SeaTac for the next live leg.

 

[FalconPilot69]

I'll take the frax....

I have worked for 2 different corporations as a pilot, and both jobs ended in 6 months. The first job ended due to 9/11 one week later with a so sorry, we will pay you till the end of the month. The other I am now leaving due to a passive aggressive bi-polar chief pilot. While I claim to know nothing about the frax side of business, the company I am going to work for, their pilots that I have talked to are very up beat about the company and seem happy overall.

We all got into this business for one main purpose, to fly aircraft and have the best office view in the world. Having to be the "coffee B#$ch", IMO, is part of the job.

Will having long duty days and being away from the family be tough? I am sure it will. But again, IMO, frax is much more secure than a corporate job where you are told I need you now, but I may not need you in 3 or 6 months.

 

[semperfido]

The other I am now leaving due to a passive aggressive bi-polar chief pilot..

shoulda slipped a little Prozac into his coffee

 

[FalconPilot69]

Lithieum (sp?) would probably be better.

 

[El Chupacabra]

IMO, frax is much more secure than a corporate job where you are told I need you now, but I may not need you in 3 or 6 months.

You have not read my book.

Fictional Ownership​

The World's Greatest Con Job​

Chapter 1. Is this a Pyramid Scheme?

If it talks like an Egyptian, and it walks like an Egyptian....




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[TheBaron]

I worked at Flops for 1 1/2 years until I got my dream job. I found that the majority of the owners were friendly and polite. In my entire time there (in the BeechJet) I only served a handful of people coffee. Most were perfectly happy to wait on themselves. There was that 10% that was never satisfied, no matter how good things went, very much in line with the very vocal 10% of the pilot group that wouldn't be happy if they were making $200,000/year for sitting at home on reserve. Some people are just "glass is half empty" kind of people.

 

[WrknStff]

It's kind of a kick hearing some of the Citation III guys complain about being forced out of their cushy plane into something like a Hawker. Talk about a vocal group, take guys used to sitting on a broke plane all the time and then tell them they are actually going to have to go back to working for a living!

 

[Heavy Set]

It's kind of a kick hearing some of the Citation III guys complain about being forced out of their cushy plane into something like a Hawker. Talk about a vocal group, take guys used to sitting on a broke plane all the time and then tell them they are actually going to have to go back to working for a living!

Now that's funny. The Citation III guys enjoyed not flying as much and now they will actually have to go to work on the 800XP... Yeah, I'd be upset too I guess.

 

[SilverBack]

C-III the truth

Now that's funny. The Citation III guys enjoyed not flying as much and now they will actually have to go to work on the 800XP... Yeah, I'd be upset too I guess.

Dude I came out of the III program into the XP and I'm not flying any more then I did in the III. Yes some of the III's were hangar queens, like 3 of them. The rest were very dependable and the ones that worked worked hard to pick up the slack. You are speaking from a poorly informed position. Before you start taking shoots at a group of guys you might get your facts right.

 

[squonk]

Baron observed:

I worked at Flops for 1 1/2 years until I got my dream job. I found that the majority of the owners were friendly and polite. In my entire time there (in the BeechJet) I only served a handful of people coffee. Most were perfectly happy to wait on themselves. There was that 10% that was never satisfied, no matter how good things went, very much in line with the very vocal 10% of the pilot group that wouldn't be happy if they were making $200,000/year for sitting at home on reserve. Some people are just "glass is half empty" kind of people.

I'll second you on that Baron. Most of the folks get in and get out with no hassles. Some of the horror stories comes from pilots on the large cabin class that fly the Hollywood elites, who all think we bow down to them anyway!

In four years I've had only a couple of hard cases and I was briefed by the ACP on one of their flights that they might be an "interesting" owner.

 

[Irish Pilot]

Got a quick question that I couldnt find in a search here....

Last I heard options was going to the Tier system (though this was quite a while ago) but looking on the Airline Pilot Central options page it says that they are currently home based.

Whats the skinny with options domiciles? What are the gateways or whatever?

 

[dime line]

The domiciles are what they are today, but tomorrow might be different. We really don't get how they come up with the domicile policy. Right now our CEO said that Tier 2 domiciles are safe, but we don't trust that.

union is on the way!!

 

[On Your Six]

The domiciles are what they are today, but tomorrow might be different. We really don't get how they come up with the domicile policy. Right now our CEO said that Tier 2 domiciles are safe, but we don't trust that.

union is on the way!!

Thanks for that info. But what's the deal with certain pilots being hired and assigned to specific domiciles like ATL and maybe DAL (rumor)? Can a newhire immediately bid a specific Tier 2 domicile or have those only been grandfathered for existing FLOPS pilots?

What are the likely fixed domiciles (like ATL) for future newhires?

 

[flydog1]

Any BNA pilots at flight ops please pm me...Thanxs.