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Sorry to interrupt the cat fight but a SCAB is a strike-breaker and a few other very specific definitions. "SCAB-like behavior" is subjective and just another meaningless epithet. Non-union pilots are not SCABs if they don't fly struck work. PFT pilots from the '90s are not SCABs either, in fact, most are ALPA members. Mesa pilots are not SCABs either no matter how you feel about their contract. The more y'all insult each other the worse this profession gets.

Dude
 
College Degree?

Did I hear college degree mentioned? Someone got a good job without a college degree? His flight experience got him the job without a degree? Someone elected to fly airplanes in order to get a job as a pilot? Now they are working on their degree part time to give them the complete resume? Isn't this heresy to pursue a flying degree without getting your college degree first? Remember a college degree has nothing to do with flying an airplane, it only opens doors.
 
What the F is your problem with PFT? Don't you recall that back when you were at Eagle just about everyone else was PFT? And NO ONE wanted to go to eagle. Remember you guys had 8 year FO's back then. In 97 PFT was pretty prevelent in the industry. Just like Southwest. It doesn't make it right so lets do what we can to better the profession. Like making sure PFT gets into a contract so no one ever has to do it again.

The people who bash MESA and Sh!tTaco are doing so because these groups have had a direct effect on the industry. Their substandard wages have caused the rest of us to fight and scrap for what little gains we can get. At Express Jets Webcast last week our CEO specifically named MESA as being so willing to fly for less and how can we compete? Thats why we're pi$$ed! And the best responce you can come up with is the PFT argument?
 
well boo hoo, I just became leagal enought to drink about a year a go. I started flying hardcore at age of 19 instructed my 20th and 21st year and now just got hire by a really good regoinal so I think if I keep on flyinh max hours every year I can get over 10,000 hours in next ten years. so just cool downn and accept it that thier are people out there. hwho can do it.
 
Easy!

PAY FOR TRAINING! McCrack sniffer whines about YV et al, but AT LEAST THEY DIDN"T GIVE IT UP AT THE DOOR!!! F ucking scum......
 
No, not pay for training just work hard. If you want it bad hyou will work you butt off and get it.
 
Lequip said:
PFTers don't rank much above Scabs.

I have a quick question and please answer with all honesty. Since you do not like ExpressJet pilots because you think they all PFT'd does that also mean that you do not like Comair, ASA, SWA, and the majority of the other "regional" airline pilots from the late nineties that also PFT'd? And, as I recall XJT gave up PFT in early 1999. All 1500 of us hired after that did not pay for training. That was a couple of years before CMR and ASA gave up their PFT and SWA still requires it.

Soooo, I would like to know really if you hate us (Continental Express pilots) alone or do hate the above mentioned carriers as well?

Also, I am not defending PFT. I never PFT'd myself. Infact I gave up offers from CMR and ASA because I prefered not to PFT. It didn't mean I hated the pilots for it though.

Frats,
 
hey pickle
go ** yourself. mesa may not be the best but what gives you the right to talk sh!t about us?
 
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18 CPL
19 CFI
20 BE-200 / CJ 2 part 135/91..

g'day
 
young skippers

both EVA Air and China Airlines(Taiwan) have a big numbers of young captain from MD90 upto B747-400 with the age range of between 31 to 40. China Airlines have 6 female 744 captain.:rolleyes:

with Emirates, we have a 777 captain and he is only 32.
 
stuart716 said:
..........what gives you the right to talk sh!t about us?


The fact that every regional airline out there has had to lower their negotiating possition because of your POS contract....you horses a$$!
 
pickle i have no idea where you come up with original arguements you make. its not like you jumped on a mesa bashing bandwagon or anything. if your company is so good then why are you worried about what happened to us. your pilot group and union should be able to get a good contract especially with you always being a part of the herd.
 
McPickle sucker..

thats EX-Mesa type to you. Stop flaping you boyfriend pleaser around here........ Another regional lifer PAY FOR TRAINING ***** Maybe the same place you bought your job can provide you with a brain...highly unlikely.......Does you're code of honor about uncutting apply to all the CO guys NOT flying 737's where you fly you cute little RJ? BECAUSE YOU FLY FOR LESS!!! How does it feel to be undercut now? You may have to read it a few times to sink in, but please do so, it could be an important event in you life, the first time you have ever confronted facts about your own hypocritcal BS.......the first step to recovery is admitting you have problem, a SERIOUS problem...your welcome for the intervention.....Are you really dumb enough to keep posting here after that shellacking????
 
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Hey Ben F, you wanna take that one. I swear to god If I ever meet this China Co(***** I will ring his adams appless freakin neck!

And Stuart I didn't jump on the MESA bashing bandwagon. I STARTED IT! If you had any clue as to regional history and Airline contract negotiations as they interact with the NMB you would realize how retarded your question.
 
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use of the word scab

TWA Dude said:
Sorry to interrupt the cat fight but a SCAB is a strike-breaker and a few other very specific definitions. "SCAB-like behavior" is subjective and just another meaningless epithet. Non-union pilots are not SCABs if they don't fly struck work. PFT pilots from the '90s are not SCABs either, in fact, most are ALPA members. Mesa pilots are not SCABs either no matter how you feel about their contract. The more y'all insult each other the worse this profession gets.

Dude

Thank you for quoting that. I think people often throw the word SCAB around waay too much!
737
the only difference might be an rjdc type. At least a scab waits until you're on strike to take your job!
 
He with the fewest hours wins.

PFTers are SORES, not scabs. They never heal, either.

Jet Blue is a startup, what should you expect? 400/hr. right seat? Their pay is just.

If you make the most in the type of airplane you fly and are union, you have the most to lose the next time you contract comes up.

Most of you need a better hobby.
 
Propsync said:
Jet Blue is a startup, what should you expect? 400/hr. right seat?

hey poopsink:

ExpressJet has been around fewer years than Jet Blue.

ExpressJet new hires are not paying for training.

ExpressJet pays better than most 50 seat jet operators (on a 7 yr old contract, too)

Maybe you should arm yourself with some facts before you masturbate on your keyboard and click"submit"



Sincerely,

B Franklin
 

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