How did you get to where you are now?

[DrProc]

Thanks my plan is to go into ANG once I graduate.

Does the ANG know this?

 

[ALIMBO]

Know what?

 

[Hobit]

Then check out:
baseops.net
wantscheck.com

 

[ALIMBO]

Thanks for the links. I have a few units in mind already, but that def. helped me.

 

[TrevorW]

ALIMBO, I fly for GoJet. The military is a great way to go especially if you get a national guard or reserve slot. I'll second baseops.net and good call on not leaving school for a position at Great Lakes or any regional for that matter.

 

[Ratherbsurfing]

With the coming economic meltdown, we haven't even begun to see the furloughs yet. Get out while you can

Oh yes, the sky is falling. . . I think Ted Kaczynski's cabin is still vacant in Montana. You can go claim it and live in blissful harmony off the land with all your new Y2K neighbors.

 

[BLing]

I'm sure I look great with 4 hours of sleep under my belt.

And 260 hours in the logbook!

 

[ALIMBO]

Good One ^^

 

[pilotyip]

look at all branches of hte military. Rem4ember also that sppling has nothing to do wit h flying an airplane

 

[ALIMBO]

My roots are pretty well stuck in the ANG I have respect for the others, but I realy like ANG. Plus the bases are right where I want to live.

 

[Can8dn]

Go figure I was still offered a job even tho I wont have my comm multi for another few weeks. Must be pretty bad over at GLA? Ya I ran my mouth because your pilot group minus a few are some of the most immature people I have ever ran across. Like I said it may be only a few rotten eggs that spoil the bunch, but the ones I talked with were ****************************************. 2. After talking with my cousin and a retired united 74 captain I realized how dumb it would be to not finish college just to go to a regional. Let alone a regional that starts you at $16 bucks an hour. Lastly, I think the only other regional I may have smack talked would be GJ for obvious reasons. So unless I direct smack talk towards you, you can stay out of this one bud.

Offered a job without a multi really man??? Stop kidding yourself.. The only people who are getting hired right now have 1200-2600 hr and are furloughed from other places. Our posted mins are 750 and 50 if you have looked recently. So tell me please what makes your 260 hr with a comm. single so competitive at GLA? we don't and never will hire people with under 300 hr, or is it your big mouth? Obviously your full of it when you say they offered you a job.. For your info things at GLA a not bad at all right now. We are not furloughing pilots, we are hiring with fast upgrades, we are still making money, and you don't and probably never will work here! Sounds perfect to me. On the bright side finishing school is a good idea and you would not have the time to do it while flying for a regional. Seriously man all I'm doing is standing up for what the true facts are and I'm sure there are other people on the forum that feel the same way and have not said anything to you. Just stop making things up and move on with your life..

 

[ALIMBO]

This is a nameless forum no need to drop names. The gentleman said when you have your comm multi within the next few weeks give me your resume and you'll have the job. I didn't know you flew cessan's is that how you got the job? Or was it your vast knowledge of the industry that you've recieved from you 800 tt? Why would I try an brag about getting a job at quite possibly the lowest regional to work for? Please tell me why?

 

[ALIMBO]

On to the real reason why this thread was started. How many of you flew traffic watch to help build time? An outfit here in Chicago only pays you roughly 5 dollars an hour if I heard correctly for reporting and they dont pay the pilot at all. So there is always the 2 people in the plane and they rotate. Is this normal? I really don't understand how they can pay less than minimum wage granted I called on this job right before the semester started maybe the pay went up but I doubt it.

 

[Can8dn]

I actually got the job because 1. I had friends whom I did not make mad with a big mouth. 2. because I paid my dues flight instructing for a year. and lastly in my 800hrs I have learned a lot no I don't know everything there is to know and nor do I act like I do. All I'm trying to do is put your attitude with great lakes and go jet to sleep. You are not even in the industry yet you talk like you are.. In my opinion and many others the only people who should and have a reason to have beef with Go jet are those who work for Trans States and have been directly effected by Go Jets business. The pilots at Go are just trying to do the same thing as all us us. Build time tho get to where they want to go. No need for names because I honestly don't care who " offered you a job" Lets just put your talk of GLA and Go to sleep dude its been getting you no where for quite sometime..

To answer your question about a traffic watch job. Two pilots in a single pilot airplane is not needed. The only way you could both log time is if one pilot is a CFI and signs it off a dual given. Most airlines would probably still bring that up in an interview seeing that your logging dual given in a Cessna doing a traffic watch job. It just doesn't add up.

 

[Hobit]

I actually got the job because 1. I had friends whom I did not make mad with a big mouth. 2. because I paid my dues flight instructing for a year. and lastly in my 800hrs I have learned a lot no I don't know everything there is to know and nor do I act like I do. All I'm trying to do is put your attitude with great lakes and go jet to sleep. You are not even in the industry yet you talk like you are.. In my opinion and many others the only people who should and have a reason to have beef with Go jet are those who work for Trans States and have been directly effected by Go Jets business. The pilots at Go are just trying to do the same thing as all us us. Build time tho get to where they want to go. No need for names because I honestly don't care who " offered you a job" Lets just put your talk of GLA and Go to sleep dude its been getting you no where for quite sometime..

To answer your question about a traffic watch job. Two pilots in a single pilot airplane is not needed. The only way you could both log time is if one pilot is a CFI and signs it off a dual given. Most airlines would probably still bring that up in an interview seeing that your logging dual given in a Cessna doing a traffic watch job. It just doesn't add up.

Every pilot in the US that works in the regional market IS affected by GJ when they are in contract negotiations. Same as MAG. Somebody with ALL YOUR experience should know that.

 

[Can8dn]

I agree with the contract negotiations but at the same time I feel that the majority of the people who have something to say about Go Jet base it off of what they have essentially done to TSA. Yes they undercut prices in the market but anymore that could be said about any regional. Why do you think the majors call all the rj companies career killers?

 

[papanovember]

I was a lifeguard supervisor at the local water park during the summer. It was the best job I ever had. I made as much in 3 months as I did the first 8 months in the airlines. (and I work for a respectable airline)My buddy who still works there dropped out of college works 6 months a year and makes $60,000 a year.

 

[JettBoii]

Lawyer, engineer, doctor, nurse, anything but a pilot. Do not waste your time. You can have my uniform.

 

[crj567]

Bad trip, dude.....

-Whoaa......

 

[Boch]

This thread makes me embarrased to be a SIU alumni.

 

[wings421]

This thread makes me embarrased to be a SIU alumni.

I'll second that.

Some airline folks say you should be a doctor, lawyer, lifegaurd whatever it may be that earns boat loads of money in their mind vs. being a pilot but there is money to be made in this business. The premium paying jobs aren't going to come to you however.

So, how do you get from here to there? Well, you have to make sacrifices. No one likes to do it, and it really isn't fair, but thats what is required. Most folks entering in the aviation business realize that they are going to have to take a low paying job in the HOPES of one day making some good cash. Yes it sucks, but there isn't any other way to go from a freshly minted pilot to a high paying pilot quickly unless you hit the lottery and buy your own plane.

ALIMBO, its good that you are trying to be selective as to who you work for, however, you are also at the mercy of the market. To get the good jobs, you have to have a good attitude, a solid network, good aeronautical knowledge and FLIGHT TIME. This means taking whatever jobs you can get to build quality time. What if you go to GLA and in a year have some good turbine time and now the better regionals are hiring again and you move on to them and then take the additional steps from there? With 260 hours, in this market, you can't be picky. Sure, you could make just as much delivering pizzas for Quatros, but does that help you toward your aviation goals? You are only on first year pay for....a year.

The SIU career fair is one of the best college fairs out there and even a great fair to attend after you graduate. The industry is in a bad spot right now and unfortunately, few are hiring. Not that big of a deal though because you are such low time anyways. Keep your head up, and your eyes on the prize. If you want to make it in aviation, you are going to have to take small steps.

Additionally, I jumpseat on GLA from time to time and I have found their crews to be quite friendly, sharp, and professional.

 

[pilotyip]

Nice Dose of REality

I'll second that.

Some airline folks say you should be a doctor, lawyer, lifegaurd whatever it may be that earns boat loads of money in their mind vs. being a pilot but there is money to be made in this business. The premium paying jobs aren't going to come to you however.

So, how do you get from here to there? Well, you have to make sacrifices. No one likes to do it, and it really isn't fair, but thats what is required. Most folks entering in the aviation business realize that they are going to have to take a low paying job in the HOPES of one day making some good cash. Yes it sucks, but there isn't any other way to go from a freshly minted pilot to a high paying pilot quickly unless you hit the lottery and buy your own plane.

ALIMBO, its good that you are trying to be selective as to who you work for, however, you are also at the mercy of the market. To get the good jobs, you have to have a good attitude, a solid network, good aeronautical knowledge and FLIGHT TIME. This means taking whatever jobs you can get to build quality time. What if you go to GLA and in a year have some good turbine time and now the better regionals are hiring again and you move on to them and then take the additional steps from there? With 260 hours, in this market, you can't be picky. Sure, you could make just as much delivering pizzas for Quatros, but does that help you toward your aviation goals? You are only on first year pay for....a year.

The SIU career fair is one of the best college fairs out there and even a great fair to attend after you graduate. The industry is in a bad spot right now and unfortunately, few are hiring. Not that big of a deal though because you are such low time anyways. Keep your head up, and your eyes on the prize. If you want to make it in aviation, you are going to have to take small steps.

Additionally, I jumpseat on GLA from time to time and I have found their crews to be quite friendly, sharp, and professional.

One of hte nicest pieces of reality seen here in a long time. If you fly because you like it is a great career.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Lawyer, engineer, doctor, nurse, anything but a pilot. Do not waste your time. You can have my uniform.

Please, please... just quit the profession. You'll likely be a lot happier than martyring yourself on flightinfo.

 

[ALIMBO]

I fly because I love it or I wouldn't have just asked for another 13 grand in loans, so me an aviation are not parting ways for awhile. As to flying for GLA for a year until I build time to move onto another regional in my opinion that's a waste. I don't want to move laterally from one regional to another. I think it be better to CFI then go to a regional of my choice. Or find other ways of building time. As for the SIU alum the school/program are not what they used to be its a fact. The program has seen so many changes that most students are very unhappy with and some are even changing majors as a result and finishing up pt. 61.

 

[Smash312]

Go figure I was still offered a job even tho I wont have my comm multi for another few weeks. Must be pretty bad over at GLA? Ya I ran my mouth because your pilot group minus a few are some of the most immature people I have ever ran across. Like I said it may be only a few rotten eggs that spoil the bunch, but the ones I talked with were ****************************************. 2. After talking with my cousin and a retired united 74 captain I realized how dumb it would be to not finish college just to go to a regional. Let alone a regional that starts you at $16 bucks an hour. Lastly, I think the only other regional I may have smack talked would be GJ for obvious reasons. So unless I direct smack talk towards you, you can stay out of this one bud.

Finish college by all means - but yeah, stop coming off like you know it all. Who cares if you don't take a $16 p/h 1900 gig. NOBODY. Who will lack experience? YOU! Your sole contribution to the 'good' for not taking a low paying job won't benefit nobody. Not even YOU. Don't come on here in public, expecting a pat on the back. If you don't want to come into the industry then STAY OUT. You're on here trying to give it the large and show how wise you are. NOBODY CARES! If you want in - then shut up and come and deal with the matter. If you don't then get off the board and go do something else. The fact is... Nobody will miss you.

 

[ALIMBO]

Don't get you panties in a bunch over an internet forum bud.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

FYI, my above comment was directed at JetBoii...

 

[Can8dn]

Finish college by all means - but yeah, stop coming off like you know it all. Who cares if you don't take a $16 p/h 1900 gig. NOBODY. Who will lack experience? YOU! Your sole contribution to the 'good' for not taking a low paying job won't benefit nobody. Not even YOU. Don't come on here in public, expecting a pat on the back. If you don't want to come into the industry then STAY OUT. You're on here trying to give it the large and show how wise you are. NOBODY CARES! If you want in - then shut up and come and deal with the matter. If you don't then get off the board and go do something else. The fact is... Nobody will miss you.

Well delivered! Thank you, Thats all

 

[say again]

I love the flying, but despise the industry. I'm just trying to decide what route I want to go now (laid off, yet again, last week. That makes 4 in 5 years).

 

[ALIMBO]

I don't know I think I found a nice in between place to work. I went to the bank to get some checks ordered and whoa the tellers and accountants were very cute. I think this has something to do with being in a college town but hot damn it was a nice view.