How "bad" are things at RAH?

[Minimaniac]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think basically it amounts to (for example) if they were extremely short on 145 FOs and fat on 170 FOs...in that case if a Captain vacancy for a 170 in ORD came open, it would behoove the company to upgrade that lower seniority 170 FO who already lives in ORD than say a more senior 145 FO from, say, STL. Less training, less shuffling, and they don't have to replace a guy from a fleet which is already understaffed.

PS. This is not meant to represent the actual situation, just an example.

Company claims to be short on 170 FO's, 145 Captains, and 170 simulator time. They say that the least painful way to meet their staffing needs is to upgrade 145 FO's only, because they are easily replaceable in terms of sim time. Also, the company does not want the above mentioned short staffed groups to be offline for 2 months for training. It just so happens that they way people sit on the seniority list right now, 145 Captains would be bidding and holding 170 CA (meaning 2 months off and 10 170 sim sessions). Also, the most senior FO's on our list are mostly 170 FO's, and they would be holding 145 Captain spots, which means another 2 months off and another 10 170 sim sessions to train the FO replacement. So, in order to avoid using 20 precious 170 sim sessions and to avoid taking 2 pilots offline for two months for every one vacancy posted, the company came up with this bypass scheme. Of course, they also said that the alternative was to take back our vacations...which to me says that there is really not that much of a staffing crunch and shortage of sim time... the company is just trying to see how far they can push us. Kind of testing the waters and the resolve of the union, so to speak.

 

[Freightdog75]

When all of this bypassing junk came to order a few weeks back there was a 145 captain bid going on.......that got canceled as a result of the above mentioned. Does anybody have a realistic guess on when that may be opened up again?

Seperate issue. just flew with a J4J guy last week and he is off and rolling out of here in May, along with a $hitload of others in his situation. Are all being recalled? Does the company have a plan for the increased vacancies, or is the upgrade-out-of-order the big solution?

Lots of questions, sorry, just want input on my new(parallel move) career endevor.

FD75

 

[ATRCA]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think basically it amounts to (for example) if they were extremely short on 145 FOs and fat on 170 FOs...in that case if a Captain vacancy for a 170 in ORD came open, it would behoove the company to upgrade that lower seniority 170 FO who already lives in ORD than say a more senior 145 FO from, say, STL. Less training, less shuffling, and they don't have to replace a guy from a fleet which is already understaffed.

PS. This is not meant to represent the actual situation, just an example.

I don't work for CHQ but you may be correct but............... who gives a $hit. Senority has to mean something. I would be furious as well. Good luck guys I think you will make big gains in due time.

 

[Pilot124]

Senority is everything and this pilot group will stand and fight to the end. :uzi:
How bad is it here? Not nearly as bad as 90% of the other regionals.

 

[MATHEWS]

Agreed. Not bad at all.

 

[IKE]

It's not perfect, but a whole lot better than where I was before. I'm glad to be here.

 

[Airline Driver]

From the letter that Brother Bedford sent to "HIS PEOPLE" one the 18th, he stated that we were short on 145 sim time not 170 sim time???? Or was his statement in his letter wrong?? Any RAH Pilots have any thought to that.
People on the board are saying that 170 sim time is short and Bedford said the opposite???? So why not Upgrade Sr. 170 FO's at both Shuttle & Republic instead of 145 FO's. A short Class instead of a full class. I hope they do not upgrade out of seniority that is DEAD WRONG!!! If they do I am just thinking of the most logical solution.

 

[ToiletDuck]

Good pilot group, yes. Strong...maybe. What are you going to do about the company trying to terminate your vacations for the year? Upgrading out of seniority order? They are blatantly attempting to violate your contract to cover up their own incompetence and I hope you won't allow it. Just the thought of them swaggering in and saying "we're going to fcuk you hard whether you like it or not so tell us how you want it..."
It makes me sick.

You speak strongly but use words like "your". Why don't you just chill if you don't work there. Let someone that knows what's going on with some inside info speak before you read the papers and start talking.

 

[ToiletDuck]

I would stay away from republic right now, A company that thinks it can take away something as fundamental as seniority, because they made some huge staffing mistakes, is NOT a company you want to be employed at! what would stop them from doing it again.? to you when its your turn to upgrade? I wish i didnt come here.

what would stop them from not paying you for a few months because they cant afford it. Crews are upset right now, very low moral, everyone wants out. there are also strong rumors of the company firing people for things that the FAA would never even look at. things are getting bad very quickly.

Go to a quality company that will respect you like express jet or skywest, you will be much better off and upgrade quicker... Tell Republic recruiting why you are not working there.

Everyone wants out? That's funny I've talked to many people who love it there. Don't speak on others behalf. You wish you weren't there? Quit tomorrow. Don't just talk the talk then hide behind a desk.

 

[Stick Man]

I would stay away from republic right now, A company that thinks it can take away something as fundamental as seniority, because they made some huge staffing mistakes, is NOT a company you want to be employed at! what would stop them from doing it again.? to you when its your turn to upgrade? I wish i didnt come here.

what would stop them from not paying you for a few months because they cant afford it. Crews are upset right now, very low moral, everyone wants out. there are also strong rumors of the company firing people for things that the FAA would never even look at. things are getting bad very quickly.

Go to a quality company that will respect you like express jet or skywest, you will be much better off and upgrade quicker... Tell Republic recruiting why you are not working there.

SKYWEST ???? Are you f-ing kidding me? 70 seaters for 50 seat rate?

Whores.

 

[Avi8tor2000]

The bypass is nothing more than a dirty ploy to seat lock the 145 CAs indefinitely. They know very well that the 50 seaters are on the way out (starting Sep. next year). If the 145 CAs leave for the 170, then they have to type more 145 CAs, who will only be there for a short period and then won't be needed any more. Its not sim time, its not a pilot shortage, its money plain and simple.

For Bedford to say in his update that no one will be impacted financially and they regret having to do this all while preaching behind Jesus' name is ridiculous though. I'm pretty sure sure Jesus didn't teach to lie directly to people. Is this how he plans on raising his children? Pathetic.

 

[Pilot124]

The bypass is nothing more than a dirty ploy to seat lock the 145 CAs indefinitely. They know very well that the 50 seaters are on the way out (starting Sep. next year). If the 145 CAs leave for the 170, then they have to type more 145 CAs, who will only be there for a short period and then won't be needed any more. Its not sim time, its not a pilot shortage, its money plain and simple.

For Bedford to say in his update that no one will be impacted financially and they regret having to do this all while preaching behind Jesus' name is ridiculous though. I'm pretty sure sure Jesus didn't teach to lie directly to people. Is this how he plans on raising his children? Pathetic.

You hit the bullseye, that is exactly what is going on here. Well said.

 

[BusDriver12]

SKYWEST ???? Are you f-ing kidding me? 70 seaters for 50 seat rate?

Whores.

RAH!??? are you kidding me? jr people flying as your captain and you not getting pay protected?

your right, i would rather fly at a company that violates one of the most basic of all rights, seniority, and does whatever it wants any time it wants. I would never fly at a company that gets 50 seat pay for a 70 seater. I want that 3 dollar and hour difference!! screw my seniority.

oh and that time i checked skywest has 5 percent overide pay for all 70 seat flying. and 100 percent cancellation pay.

I would much rather have a sweet 9 hours of pay for a 4 day in FEB and fly FO to someone jr than me than be at skywest.

Good point

 

[BusDriver12]

Everyone wants out? That's funny I've talked to many people who love it there. Don't speak on others behalf. You wish you weren't there? Quit tomorrow. Don't just talk the talk then hide behind a desk.

Record breaking attrition so far in 2007.

Everyone loves it!

 

[BusDriver12]

SKYWEST ???? Are you f-ing kidding me? 70 seaters for 50 seat rate?

Whores.

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/skywest.html


what a bunch of whores.