horizon pilots jumpseat

[jet pipe ovht]

So why do you guys let mx ride in the jumpseat on a mustride? If the company needs to move mx it should be in a seat in the back. The jumpseat is for pilots. You guys need to man up and get that fixed. Quit letting the company take advantage of the jumpseat.

 

[Metro752]

Word brother, word!


http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...8&view=text&node=14:3.0.1.1.4.20.3.11&idno=14

 

[Abernathy]

I'm sure they will get right on that, especially since they have nothing else to worry about over there...

 

[ePilot22]

Horizon is not the only one.





eP.

 

[propsarebest]

Maybe because there were no seats in the back? Maybe for CG reasons the guy had to sit up front? Maybe because there was no-one else there to ride in the Jumpseat? WHO THE HELL CARES.

And no, the jumpseat is not only for pilots. Other people use it too.

 

[dbert]

Word brother, word!


http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...8&view=text&node=14:3.0.1.1.4.20.3.11&idno=14

(3) A certificated airman employed by the certificate holder whose duties require an airman certificate;

 

[Buschpilot]

Ask the MX Reps. They're the ones that negotiate on MX behalf.

Besides, the seats in the back are for revenue. I'd rather an employee sit in the jump so that the company can recognize the revenue that was given to them. That is, afterall, the goal of our business.

 

[Full of LUV]

Ask the MX Reps. They're the ones that negotiate on MX behalf.

Besides, the seats in the back are for revenue. I'd rather an employee sit in the jump so that the company can recognize the revenue that was given to them. That is, afterall, the goal of our business.

Busch,
You are a great company man! May you never have to commute!
Do you accept assignment to the jumpseat on deadheads for pilots as well? Why not? Just asking.....

 

[Buschpilot]

I don't commute, so I won't even pretend to know what that's like - nor will I debate it on an online forum.

Actually, I do offer to sit in the jump on deadhead flights. Not because I want more revenue on the plane, but simply because I do a lot of volunteer work for our pilot union, and I want to talk to the folks I represent (especially these days, when our TA is up for vote, and there is a lot of questions and anxiety on the line). That's whats important to me, and that's why I offer to sit up there. I can do more good for our pilots by actually sitting with them and hearing their concerns, rather than sitting in the back and reading US Weekly.

I won't pretend that I know or understand the needs of offline commuters. That's why we have a jumpseat committee. Nor will I profess that we're perfect, and have all the answers. I do know that there is a venue to address these concerns, and publicly on this forum probably isn't it.

And no, I'm not a company man, but I do believe that at the end of the day, the company is here to generate revenue. Failure to do that, and it won't matter what our jumpseat policy is, because it'll be parked in the desert.

 

[glasspilot]

It is fine for a "must ride" dead head to sit in the jumpseat to allow more revenue on the company flight. HOWEVER, they should NOT deny any poor pilot trying to jumpseat access to that seat. The jumpseat is there for the FAA and Pilots. If neither of those two want it then let it go to the other groups with PIC approval.

If I were jumpseating offline and some mechanic was denying me the seat I'd be pissed and take it to my jumpseat committee.

 

[ePilot22]

The jumpseat is there for the FAA and Pilots.

You're going to upset the dispatcher guy, again.




eP.

 

[propsarebest]

You're going to upset the dispatcher guy, again.
eP.

And the secret service guy, and the NTSB guy...

 

[glasspilot]

yeah, them too. but not Mx on a deadhead.

Heck, I took the jumpseat on deadheads before too. But it was only to avoid denying a revenue boarding and AFTER confirming nobody else was in line for it. It isn't hard guys. How about a little support for one of the few "perks" left...

 

[SKC]

yeah, them too. but not Mx on a deadhead.

Heck, I took the jumpseat on deadheads before too. But it was only to avoid denying a revenue boarding and AFTER confirming nobody else was in line for it. It isn't hard guys. How about a little support for one of the few "perks" left...

...and how is your example different from the one in question? Because it was a mech and not a pilot?

 

[SizzleChest]

F9 is allowing mechanics too so good luck on your commute if you need F9....

 

[onewithwings]

The jumpseat is there for the FAA and Pilots. If neither of those two want it then let it go to the other groups with PIC approval.

You sir, have THAT wrong. The jumpseat is for anyone "qualified" to sit there (providing they are CASS approved). I can't tell you how many times I need to explain that dispatchers are "airmen" and are "jumpseat qualified". They always think I want the FA jumpseat...for which I am NOT qualified. :angryfire

 

[Caveman]

You sir, have THAT wrong. The jumpseat is for anyone "qualified" to sit there (providing they are CASS approved). I can't tell you how many times I need to explain that dispatchers are "airmen" and are "jumpseat qualified". They always think I want the FA jumpseat...for which I am NOT qualified. :angryfire

You aren't 'qualified' for the JS either darling. You're allowed to sit there. Big difference. I don't care what kind of certificate you have in your purse, if you can't fly it you aren't an 'airman'.

 

[propsarebest]

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