Hold on tight

[outerfix]

Your right of course but whats the fun of a message board if we cant speculate? I have read the Options contract and it looks like they would have a pretty good case for single carrier status with FLEX. Your mostly right on your second statement but I'm pretty sure the American pilots are ok with how the TWA integration went.

 

[Propilot77]

Your right of course but whats the fun of a message board if we cant speculate? I have read the Options contract and it looks like they would have a pretty good case for single carrier status with FLEX. Your mostly right on your second statement but I'm pretty sure the American pilots are ok with how the TWA integration went.

How so Flex is not an air carrier and the 135 certificate is completely separately owned and operated.

 

[CL300Pilot]

In the end, it will all come down to what the liars....err I mean lawyers come up with.

 

[AeroBoy]

CitationAir pilots should make sure that their resumes are current. Just sayin'...

 

[Club ORD FO]

Has the FLOPS union had an official response to the Flexjet acquisition?

 

[outerfix]

How so Flex is not an air carrier and the 135 certificate is completely separately owned and operated.

It's not cut and dry and i'm surprised the FAA went along with it in the first place but FLEX has and continues to operate flights under part 135. In addition, Options has in their contract that any fractional flying done under the Directional banner will be operated by Options. It would be up to a judge to decide the outcome but if either FLEX was judged to be an air carrier for the purpose of integration or the Options contract holds up in court, an integration would occur. If Flex was judged not to be an air carrier and the Options contract holds up, an integration might occur outside of the McCaskill-Bond guidelines.

 

[outerfix]

CitationAir pilots should make sure that their resumes are current. Just sayin'...

Sounds like you have some information that we don't have, that must make you feel very important.

 

[Fresh Air]

Has the FLOPS union had an official response to the Flexjet acquisition?

Phone-in meeting with the 1108 this evening. I will be very surprised if we hear anything other than the usual "support your Union, pay your dues, we have no further information at this time". It's not that our Union leadership doesn't try, it's just that management doesn't tell us squat.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I have read the Options contract and it looks like they would have a pretty good case for single carrier status with FLEX.

As it currently stands, they would have ZERO chance of winning a single carrier case.

Four years ago, with the company SUPPORTING the single-carrier petition, the NJI flight attendants WON their case stating NJI and NJA WERE NOT a single carrier. And NJI and NJA were a whole lot closer to one company than Flex and Options.

The accelerated integration debacle that followed was a direct result of the court's decision.

Jussssssss sayin.

 

[Propilot77]

It's not cut and dry and i'm surprised the FAA went along with it in the first place but FLEX has and continues to operate flights under part 135. In addition, Options has in their contract that any fractional flying done under the Directional banner will be operated by Options. It would be up to a judge to decide the outcome but if either FLEX was judged to be an air carrier for the purpose of integration or the Options contract holds up in court, an integration would occur. If Flex was judged not to be an air carrier and the Options contract holds up, an integration might occur outside of the McCaskill-Bond guidelines.

Flexjet does not operate under 135 only 91k. All 135 flights are done under Jet Solutions LLC and we pilots act as agents for them. Completely seperate that's why we have an agency agreement with Jet Solutions LLC.