headset for SUPT

[hermair52]

It appearstobe many peopleon the board with time at or getting ready for UPT. I am looking forward to OTS in August and then hopefully SUPT in January. I was wondering if it would be advantageous for me to buy a headset prior to flight training? Any input?

 

[BeechScrub]

Be sure to get one that fits over your helmet.

 

[Big Duke Six]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Beach. Except you were nicer. Now, I don't normally do this this way, but this guy needs help, so here goes:

Hermair, not trying to be an a$$ here or anything, but are you sure you know what you're getting into? I suggest you hit the books on where you are going. I can understand some ignorance, I mean people aren't born with all this knowledge. But man, you need to educate yourself on what you are signing up for before you go.

Deep breath.....OK

I only say that because I feel that anyone who is motivated enough to seriously consider, let alone get through, UPT should already know the first most basic rule of thumb about the military: That is that no matter what, if there is ANYTHING you will need to function while in training or on duty, be it a pen, boots, gloves, eyeglasses, sunglasses, kneeboards, E6B's. flightsuits, jackets or a HELMET, they will give it to you. You've heard the old joke about the service - that if Uncle Sam wanted you to have a wife he would have issued you one? It's not far from the truth. Now, it's not entirely true to be sure - they don't issue underwear, T-shirts or socks to officers like they do to enlisted people. Bring those.

It's been a little while for me, but as far as I know, you will not be wearing a headset in any training airplane you may encounter. Flight Screening, if it still exists, may be an exception, but rest assured if you ever need a headset, one will appear for you. Nuff said.

In any case, good luck and best wishes!

 

[Cruise157]

They'll issue you a david clark headset if you go T-1's. But you'll still hang on to your helmet if you go KC-135's, and I think the same for C-130 and C-17's. Although you'll rarely wear it.

Side note: A few of us here in pacific-land just got issued the Bose $995.00 ANR headset to test. THOSE THINGS ARE SWEET! Thank-you taxpayers!

 

[TonyC]

They'll issue you a david clark headset if you go T-1's. But you'll still hang on to your helmet if you go KC-135's, and I think the same for C-130 and C-17's. Although you'll rarely wear it.

Yea, you'll need something to mount the PLZT goggles on. (I'm assuming they still have those things....)


And now, for the trivia buffs amongst us, who knows what PLZT stands for?

 

[Cruise157]

And now, for the trivia buffs amongst us, who knows what PLZT stands for?

Total shot in the dark, but I'm sure it's lead lanthanum zirconate titanate.

Non-SIOP units don't have to worry about PLZT goggles, etc.

 

[Spur]

But you'll still hang on to your helmet if you go KC-135's, and I think the same for C-130 and C-17's. Although you'll rarely wear it.

You will wear your helmet quite a bit in the herk, since most of the TAC you fly will be at night, always with NVGs once qual'd.

 

[LearLove]

Wouldn't you also wear DC's if you went to the T-44 or King Air?

 

[TonyC]

Total shot in the dark, but I'm sure it's lead lanthanum zirconate titanate.

Non-SIOP units don't have to worry about PLZT goggles, etc.

Shot in the dark, my foot!

Hey, I never heard of a "non-SIOP" unit. Back when I was.... oh, never mind.

 

[TonyC]

Hey Cruise157,

I just glanced at your profile. How 'bout you goin' over to Charlie's Tacos and pickin' me up a half dozen beef tacos and plentya sauce? Get some for you, too, and I'll pay!

Tomorrow... 4 Seasons Steak House...

and the next day, Sam's by the Sea...


those were the days....


Ghengis Khan...

Last Chance...

Cashew Chicken at the USO...

Skoshi KOOM...

Tiger Patch shop - - for patches, not food

Tommy China and China Pete's...

hmmmm... where was I?

 

[Cruise157]

Hey Tony! How long ago were you out here? My apartment is a short spit away from Ghengis Khan near the sea wall, enough to smell the BBQ in my living room at night.

You forgot Yoshi's and Kitakisen if you're into sushi, or were you before those places' time?

 

[TonyC]

Hey Tony! How long ago were you out here? My apartment is a short spit away from Ghengis Khan near the sea wall, enough to smell the BBQ in my living room at night.

You forgot Yoshi's and Kitakisen if you're into sushi, or were you before those places' time?

First trip was in `84... last was in `94... lots of trips in between! We spent roughly 30 days at a time in the Q next to the KOOM, or the next one up the hill.

I partook of sushi from time to time, but it never was "my" thing.

I'll bet you can't walk through Gate 2 with just an American Express card anymore, can ya?

 

[Cruise157]

[I'll bet you can't walk through Gate 2 with just an American Express card anymore, can ya? [/B]

Hell no. Especially since SOFA status personnel (TDY or permanent party) are banned from at least three places on Gate 2 street. That place isn't my bag anyway.

I'm guessing you were associated with the 82nd? I'm loving those due regard O9E sorties. A matter of fact, you Offut guy just bought me a 3 week TDY in Hawaii. What a blast!

 

[TonyC]

I'm guessing you were associated with the 82nd? I'm loving those due regard O9E sorties. A matter of fact, you Offut guy just bought me a 3 week TDY in Hawaii. What a blast!

You are correct, sir. Most I ever got in Hawaii was min crew rest + 25 minutes.

 

[Tweetdrvr]

hermair,

Military headsets use different impedence and ohms than the civil counterparts. Adapters are available to make a civil model work in military aircraft, but they don't work super great. I used one on my noise cancelling DCs in the 130 a few years ago.

At AF JSUPT, you will not need a headset until you get to the T-1 or T-44 track, and it will be issued. All of your primary flight training will be in an aircraft that requires the brain bucket. In the beginning simulators, they make you wear everything, parachute, harness and/or G-suit if required to prove you know how to strap in and egress correctly. After solo, they have headsets for you at the sim.

I don't know if the T-44s or C-12s at CRP use the military voltage headsets or if they remained on the civil standard. Considering the T-1 is mil standard, I would guess the same goes for the King Air derivatives at CRP.

Hope this helps

 

[hermair52]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for the tough love. I'll admit I have been flying the civilian world for 11 years now and I have paid for everything. Nothing seems to come easy with financial aid. Glad to hear they take care of us.

 

[Vandal]

when you wear the helmet in 130's do you wear the 02 mask?

 

[MarineGrunt]

when you wear the helmet in 130's do you wear the 02 mask?

I doubt it since the aircraft is pressurized...

 

[TonyC]

when you wear the helmet in 130's do you wear the 02 mask?

Since that's where the microphone is, seems like it'd sure make it easier to talk...

 

[Mud Eagle]

Since that's where the microphone is, seems like it'd sure make it easier to talk...

Unless you've got the boom mic.

 

[Spur]

You will use the boom mike, unless you are doing HALO above 10000', then you will use the mask.

 

[RichO]

No matter how hard you try, your probably won't be able to get rid of that helmet...so make sure it fits real nice....those hot spots can be pain after a few hours......especially when you add a set of NVG's on top of them.....and for the issue stuff, you'll get things you won't even use........but were put on the list years ago, and are still there.......

 

[rainman_02]

Some of us fly around with 1/3oz Telex earpieces...

 

[Cruise157]

Some of us fly around with 1/3oz Telex earpieces...

Yeah... and require air stairs everywhere you go

Gucciassmofo

 

[mudkow60]

All the stuff the military issues is good and tough. Like the other day, I lost my checklist out the window... it dented the sponson on the helo, but was fully intact when I saw it hit the water about 50 feet from some folks on the beach. Built Ford Tough.

 

[rainman_02]

Yeah... and require air stairs everywhere you go

Gucciassmofo

Airstairs are only required if we have pax. It'd be pretty ugly to see the ORFs fall 20 feet to the ground using the normal crew entrance stand.