Hawker 800XP/API winglets range question

[BoilerUP]

Anybody know if a 800XP with API winglets can carry 1600lb payload over a 2000nm trip (no wind) at intermediate cruise speed and still land with sufficient reserves?

Thanks...

 

[FlyingPieceOfSt]

Save your company's money. Get on the waiting list of the G250.

 

[BoilerUP]

One could buy a fleet of 3 used PL21 800XPs, have winglets installed, and staff/operate them for at least 2 years for what a new G250 lists for.

That airplane looks great, but it's a bit beyond a Hawker...

 

[spxdriver]

Anybody know if a 800XP with API winglets can carry 1600lb payload over a 2000nm trip (no wind) at intermediate cruise speed and still land with sufficient reserves?

Thanks...

Yes.

BOW of 16,400 LBS, 1,600 LBS payload makes you 18,000 ZFW. Add 10,000 lbs of fuel (max) and you're at 28,000 lbs, which is the max t/o weight. That's enough fuel to go 2,500nm at max cruise power.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Yes.

BOW of 16,400 LBS, 1,600 LBS payload makes you 18,000 ZFW. Add 10,000 lbs of fuel (max) and you're at 28,000 lbs, which is the max t/o weight. That's enough fuel to go 2,500nm at max cruise power.

Will it go to FL 510?

 

[BoilerUP]

Yes.

BOW of 16,400 LBS, 1,600 LBS payload makes you 18,000 ZFW. Add 10,000 lbs of fuel (max) and you're at 28,000 lbs, which is the max t/o weight. That's enough fuel to go 2,500nm at max cruise power.

Thanks!

I do have that API supplement you emailed me a while back, but I wanted to see about "real world" vs. book performance...

 

[stupidpilot]

Will it go to FL 510?

Who cares? 410 is just fine for us normal folks.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Who cares? 410 is just fine for us normal folks.

You obviously haven't made it to a Gulfstream yet.

 

[Livin' Life]

Anybody know if a 800XP with API winglets can carry 1600lb payload over a 2000nm trip (no wind) at intermediate cruise speed and still land with sufficient reserves?

Thanks...

From ARINC:

TEB-NYL (Yuma,AZ) 2050nm (optimized route)
Payload -1600lbs
Fuel Required - 9692lbs (assuming 250lb taxi)
Reserves - 1500lbs (I plugged in a 45 minute reserve but it came out to 980lbs. I don't know anyone who would land with that)
T/O Wt - 27,571

Rwy analysis - can depart rwy 1 at 28,000lbs up to 32c flaps 0


We took off from a 5000ft rwy in ME last week, flew to TX with a 1300lb payload and landed with 2500lbs.

 

[jonjuan]

Will it go to FL 510?

Ummm, no, it's not a LR60.

 

[ultrarunner]

From ARINC:

TEB-NYL (Yuma,AZ) 2050nm (optimized route)
Payload -1600lbs
Fuel Required - 9692lbs (assuming 250lb taxi)
Reserves - 1500lbs (I plugged in a 45 minute reserve but it came out to 980lbs. I don't know anyone who would land with that)
T/O Wt - 27,571

Rwy analysis - can depart rwy 1 at 28,000lbs up to 32c flaps 0

Am I missing something?

The plane holds 10000 lbs max fuel, and the above trip needs 9692?

Soooooo....are saying you can actually DO that trip?

 

[say again]

From ARINC:

TEB-NYL (Yuma,AZ) 2050nm (optimized route)
Payload -1600lbs
Fuel Required - 9692lbs (assuming 250lb taxi)
Reserves - 1500lbs (I plugged in a 45 minute reserve but it came out to 980lbs. I don't know anyone who would land with that)
T/O Wt - 27,571

Rwy analysis - can depart rwy 1 at 28,000lbs up to 32c flaps 0

Am I missing something?

The plane holds 10000 lbs max fuel, and the above trip needs 9692?

Soooooo....are saying you can actually DO that trip?

I believe the 9692 is including the reserve.

 

[stupidpilot]

You obviously haven't made it to a Gulfstream yet.

Oooooo! I'm so jealous!! What are you 12?

 

[Livin' Life]

"I believe the 9692 is including the reserve."


It is.

 

[fisherpilot]

Ummm, no, it's not a LR60.

I've been to FL450 (plane didn't like it at all) in the lear 60 and won't go any higher. I'm sure it will do it but I wouldn't want to.

 

[400A]

Being a person who has had a window depart the aircraft, you can have your FL510. No interest at all. I am sure you guys wear your mask too.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Being a person who has had a window depart the aircraft, you can have your FL510. No interest at all. I am sure you guys wear your mask too.

Window depart?....You need to get a Gulfstream.

We fly at FL510 on every flight possible. I love to take lots of pictures up there.

 

[NCherches]

What aircraft did you lose a window in? A turbo-prop?

 

[400A]

Front windscreen of a Merlin

 

[NCherches]

I figured... I haven't heard of a window on a (decent) jet going bye-bye.