Have you ever had a captain (or FO) that makes up his own procedures?

[DorkProp]

This could have been an entertaining thread, but now it's just stupid.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

This one should be interesting. I hear all kinds of stories of captains (or FO's) that like to make up their own procedures and have these (at least in their mind) rationalizations for making up their own procedures. Anyone?

Call me paranoid, but I think you're management at a regional and are looking for inflight violations being commited andtrying to address them as a "fellow pilot."

Your tone is the same as that soverytired guy.

I understand that you're trying to protect your compa y from lawsuits or perhaps trying to rat someone out if you can identify them.

Apologies if I am way too paranoid.

 

[Rally]

Nope not management. And this thread has completely turned to muck. There could have been some good and funny stories but as is typical you can't do that on FI. You guys need to shut your month if your you not going to add anything worth while.

 

[Rally]

This could have been an entertaining thread, but now it's just stupid.

Agree typical....I wonder if all these cowboys would be talking like this face to face?

 

[Soverytired]

How's this:

Anyone who's flown the DHC-8 knows that there's a knob in the front where you can open the outflow valve and differential pressure would vent the cockpit.

While not a "procedure" per se, I think the expected (yet not written down) action was to casually lean forward an open that sucker after letting one rip.

(or not, if you didn't like the guy you were flying with )

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Professionals don't change the way they operate with a Fed on board....

The mask rule is in part to TUC but also work load. If one doesn't have the mask on and there is a Rapid Decompression, searching for the mask, and putting it on is time away from controlling the jet.

Pilots who don't wear the mask while the other takes a LAV break are UNprofessional....

The FAA has a program so that CIV pilots can visit MIL altitude chambers. It cost a day off and some $$$, but being professional is about service and a little sacrifice..

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/

 

[Rally]

Professionals don't change the way they operate with a Fed on board....

The mask rule is in part to TUC but also work load. If one doesn't have the mask on and there is a Rapid Decompression, searching for the mask, and putting it on is time away from controlling the jet.

Pilots who don't wear the mask while the other takes a LAV break are UNprofessional....

The FAA has a program so that CIV pilots can visit MIL altitude chambers. It cost a day off and some $$$, but being professional is about service and a little sacrifice..

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/

Finally some reasoning skills. You know having a Fed in jumpseat and pulling a stunt like that is bound to get him prying for some other "non standard" things like elapsed AD's etc. Could cause more trouble for your brothers and sisters at the airline.

 

[Flyer1015]

It's gone on 2 pages now.

Just put the mask on, and take it off when the pilot gets back from the sh*tter.

Jeez, was that hard?

 

[PCL_128]

Pilots who don't wear the mask while the other takes a LAV break are UNprofessional....

Just call me "UNprofessional" then.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Just call me "UNprofessional" then.

What is your TUC?

I can see it now.... Flight Level ...whatever... eating pizza on your lap as Captn' Whats-His-Nuts is taking extra time after his LAV break to chat it up with the new hire Southern Belle who thought there was still romance in aviation....

Meanwhile you're stuck up front trying to eat your pizza with a Waffle House reject who is awe stuck at all the flat screen TV's, switches and knobs....

When the Rapid Decomp hits.... you're my hero! After the mist clears.... the big question is... 'where is the mask!! But more importantly!! Where's my pizza!!'

It's mystic pizza!!

:beer:

 

[Donsa320]

Once upon a time we had a senior captain who was the terror of the F/O's. He disliked the company procedures to the point that he would bring his own checklits along on trips for his hapless F/O's to use. Said captain had been a check pilot but had been removed from that status by the company because of his non-standard procedures.

One dark night at DTW this captain attempted a no-flap, no-slat take-off. No after-start or before-take-off checklists had been called for or accomplished. The Central Aural Warning System (CAWS) circuit breaker was open or pulled. This captain took 150 some odd people under a bridge on Interstate 94, inverted. One young girl survived.

DC

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

On August 16, 1987, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82 operating as Northwest Airlines Flight 255,[38] bound for Phoenix, Arizona, and Santa Ana, California, crashed on take-off from Metro's 8,500-foot (2,600 m)-long Runway 3 Center (Now Runway 3L). All but one passenger on the aircraft were killed; the lone survivor was a young girl, Cecelia Cichan, who lost both of her parents and her brother. The NTSB determined that the accident resulted from flight crew's failure to deploy the aircraft's flaps prior to take-off, resulting in a lack of necessary lift. The aircraft slammed into an overpass bridge on Interstate 94 just northeast of the departure end of the runway.

 

[Donsa320]

On August 16, 1987, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82 operating as Northwest Airlines Flight 255,[38] bound for Phoenix, Arizona, and Santa Ana, California, crashed on take-off from Metro's 8,500-foot (2,600 m)-long Runway 3 Center (Now Runway 3L). All but one passenger on the aircraft were killed; the lone survivor was a young girl, Cecelia Cichan, who lost both of her parents and her brother. The NTSB determined that the accident resulted from flight crew's failure to deploy the aircraft's flaps prior to take-off, resulting in a lack of necessary lift. The aircraft slammed into an overpass bridge on Interstate 94 just northeast of the departure end of the runway.

As Paul Harvey might say, now you know the rest of the story.

DC

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

As Paul Harvey might say, now you know the rest of the story.

DC

Actually I like to know more about the CA's attitude.

Any links?

Interesting that many will put ego before people's lives, even their own...

And in aviation organizations, how the leadership and management will over look such attitudes....

 

[Donsa320]

Actually I like to know more about the CA's attitude.

Any links?

Interesting that many will put ego before people's lives, even their own...

And in aviation organizations, how the leadership and management will over look such attitudes....

I guess I'm the link, I was there. He was a commuter, make that a very unhappy commuter, from PHX. Norhwest had just sold our 757's and said captain was bumped back to the MD-80. Lived in a crappy crash-pad hotel while in DTW, PO'd about the mergers (Republic-Air West and then NorthWest) and his schedule, PO'd because PHX had been closed as a crew base, PO'd in general. Miserable to talk to even if he was just signing his flight release.

DC