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Rally said:
Rules are rules. And the point is that you'd actually do that with a FAA inspector in the seat. By the book when a fed is in the seat. Rules are there for a reason.
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I agree. The immediate aftermath of a high altitude decompression will mean lots of alarms going off, extreme cold, frozen over windows, massive windstorm if it was a cockpit window that shattered, etc. No one is going to be thinking clearly for the first few seconds, and as short panic would be a perfectly normal reaction. Best to have it on, just in case, since it's only you up there.

Plus . . . you never know who's looking up from the back when the door opens to let the other guy in . . . .
 
Capi_Cafre' said:
I'm guessing that an explosive decompression at altitude might change your thinking on that. One of those things that almost certainly will never happen, but if it does, watch out. Anyone who's sure that he wouldn't be a bit discombobulated as the TUC clock started to count down is dreaming IMO. Besides, I always feel better after a few minutes of O2-it's as close to an antidote for today's scheduling practices as I've ever seen.
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Capi, your right, but I don't think some of these kids will listen (pilotbrain, PCL_128).

The 3 min mark in the video is pretty telling.

With two or more people up front, hopefully someone will get there mask on quickly and most importantly, properly. When one of you recover (45 to 60 seconds later) fly the airplane.

Now with one person at the controls......hhhmm ...well lets just follow the rules ok.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ooGY8Jbqw&feature=related
 
Rally said:
LOL.....

I was talking to FAA inspector (maint) that was jumpseating one of the pilots leaves the cockpit to go use the lav. No mask on the captain. He goes "guys I'm not going to do anything but you have 110 people behind you what do you think would happen if we had a rapid?" Enough said. Why would anyone do that with a FAA inspector in the jumpseat?
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Why would an FO do that to his Captain. The Captain must have been a real A-hole.
 
Soverytired said:
I agree. The immediate aftermath of a high altitude decompression will mean lots of alarms going off, extreme cold, frozen over windows, massive windstorm if it was a cockpit window that shattered, etc. No one is going to be thinking clearly for the first few seconds, and as short panic would be a perfectly normal reaction. Best to have it on, just in case, since it's only you up there.

Plus . . . you never know who's looking up from the back when the door opens to let the other guy in . . . .
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Apparently, they have not seen the decompression video that used to be shown in most recurrent ground training sessions. It is quite sobering to watch, especially when you see that test pilot's eyes roll up in the back of his head!

I guess some people don't understand why there are rules, regs, and policies. Over time, they have usually been created because of an accident, incident, loss of human life, and some idiot saying, "hey, watch this!"

Maybe, that's why they put pins in handgrenades, a safety on a gun, seat belts in cars, and require pilots to don an oxygen mask
when another crewmember leaves the cockpit above 250. It's about the passengers in the back, people on the ground, and the investors that gave you that $25 million airplane to fly! It's not about you! They pay you to fly the airplane by the rules, anything less is gross negligence. Be a Professional, follow the rules!

You can puff your hair up later before you stroll through the concourse showing everyone you are a pilot!
 
I say we call Payne Stewart and ask......oh wait....
 
JoeMerchant said:
Do you abide by ALL rules? Do you always drive the speed limit? I don't know anyone that follows ALL rules...most just pick the ones they agree with......
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Do I ever speed?...Yes...But would I speed knowing there's a cop following right behind me ready to bust me? No...Not following the rules when you know there's a fed on the jumpseat watching to make sure that you are following the rules is retarded...If you get in trouble for it, then you deserve it...
 
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Rally said:
This one should be interesting. I hear all kinds of stories of captains (or FO's) that like to make up their own procedures and have these (at least in their mind) rationalizations for making up their own procedures. Anyone?
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Call me paranoid, but I think you're management at a regional and are looking for inflight violations being commited andtrying to address them as a "fellow pilot."

Your tone is the same as that soverytired guy.

I understand that you're trying to protect your compa y from lawsuits or perhaps trying to rat someone out if you can identify them.

Apologies if I am way too paranoid.
 
Nope not management. And this thread has completely turned to muck. There could have been some good and funny stories but as is typical you can't do that on FI. You guys need to shut your month if your you not going to add anything worth while.
 
DorkProp said:
This could have been an entertaining thread, but now it's just stupid.
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Agree typical....I wonder if all these cowboys would be talking like this face to face?
 
How's this:

Anyone who's flown the DHC-8 knows that there's a knob in the front where you can open the outflow valve and differential pressure would vent the cockpit.

While not a "procedure" per se, I think the expected (yet not written down) action was to casually lean forward an open that sucker after letting one rip.

(or not, if you didn't like the guy you were flying with :) )
 
Professionals don't change the way they operate with a Fed on board....

The mask rule is in part to TUC but also work load. If one doesn't have the mask on and there is a Rapid Decompression, searching for the mask, and putting it on is time away from controlling the jet.

Pilots who don't wear the mask while the other takes a LAV break are UNprofessional....

The FAA has a program so that CIV pilots can visit MIL altitude chambers. It cost a day off and some $$$, but being professional is about service and a little sacrifice..

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/
 
Rez O. Lewshun said:
Professionals don't change the way they operate with a Fed on board....

The mask rule is in part to TUC but also work load. If one doesn't have the mask on and there is a Rapid Decompression, searching for the mask, and putting it on is time away from controlling the jet.

Pilots who don't wear the mask while the other takes a LAV break are UNprofessional....

The FAA has a program so that CIV pilots can visit MIL altitude chambers. It cost a day off and some $$$, but being professional is about service and a little sacrifice..

http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/
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Finally some reasoning skills. You know having a Fed in jumpseat and pulling a stunt like that is bound to get him prying for some other "non standard" things like elapsed AD's etc. Could cause more trouble for your brothers and sisters at the airline.
 
It's gone on 2 pages now.

Just put the mask on, and take it off when the pilot gets back from the sh*tter.

Jeez, was that hard?
 
PCL_128 said:
Just call me "UNprofessional" then.
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What is your TUC?

I can see it now.... Flight Level ...whatever... eating pizza on your lap as Captn' Whats-His-Nuts is taking extra time after his LAV break to chat it up with the new hire Southern Belle who thought there was still romance in aviation....

Meanwhile you're stuck up front trying to eat your pizza with a Waffle House reject who is awe stuck at all the flat screen TV's, switches and knobs....

When the Rapid Decomp hits.... you're my hero! After the mist clears.... the big question is... 'where is the mask!! But more importantly!! Where's my pizza!!'

It's mystic pizza!!

:beer:
 

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