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A couple of years ago, during the beginining of my still fledgling career, I was working for a charter/corporate outfit, building some sketchy time in a variety of piston and turbine twins. Got a call from the boss one morning. He asked me if I had any time in any Piper singles. "Nope, not an hour, but I've walked past them a few times." His response, "Well, you're gonna get some today."

He needed me to fly the chief pilot up to East Hampton to rescue a Chieftan that was finally fixed after being broken for some time. My "ground school" on the airplane consisted of him telling me, over the phone, that "it's no different than any of the Cessnas you've ever flown, except you just have to remember to turn on the fuel pump", and "just like any other light plane, your approach and landing speed is gonna be about 3 o'clock on the airpspeed indicator". (I had never thought about that, but it's actually generally true, at least for all the light planes I've ever flown, and as long as the mains touch down first I guess you're gonna make it out in one piece).

Granted, the chief pilot was with me for the first leg and there were no surprises. And I was liscensed and technically qualified to fly the thing (an Arrow? Archer? whatever Piper calls it's low wing, normally aspirated, fixed pitch, fixed gear 4-seater), but I can only imagine the field day the powers-that-be would have had if something untoward had happened on the return flight when I was by myself. Zero dual received in the type, and about 20 minutes of time to preflight, locate all the switches, find the POH buried in the backseat pocket (nevermind actually look it over), figure out the seat adjustment and seatbelts, and we're off.

The things we do when we are trying to fill our logbooks.
 
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Goose Egg said:
Yes, actually. I flew a 152 without a rental checkout after I had flown ~100 hours in a 172. I know, I'm a pretty big rebel.

You're regressing Goose.....
 
Kream926 said:
you have to get checked out if you plan to rent from an fbo. youll go with one of their cfi's and demonstrate that you can fly, like a mini checkride

What amazes me is that so many pilots belive that this is an FAA requirement, not so!

Your pilot liscense says "Private Pilot, airplane/single engine land" Than means provided you have the apropriate endorsements you can hop into ANY single engine airplane.

Get your PPL in a PA-28, get your HP & complex endorsements in Bonanza, hop right into a Caravan and fire it up. Never touched a turboprop before in your life? Not an issue in the eyes of the FAA.

Only when you start flying a few of the old WW2 fighters does the FAA step in requireing a letter of authorization (LOA) for anything bigger than an AT-6.
 
I am a ferry pilot and my job entails flying airplanes I know nothing about. Theres only a few things you need to know to fly any airplane. Look at the bottom of the white arc. Take that number X's 1.2, thats your Vr, 1.3 thats your final approach speed. Climb out at the top of the white arc and shoot approaches at the top of the white arc. Know the gear speed and if in a twin fly final approach at or above blue line. Simple as that. Ive flown over 20 different makes and models of planes over the past 10 months and its true, an airplane is an airplane. If it has an engine and wings it'll fly.
 
The hardest part is usually getting them started. After that, pull back, houses get smaller, push forward, houses get bigger.
 
USMCmech said:
What amazes me is that so many pilots belive that this is an FAA requirement, not so!

Your pilot liscense says "Private Pilot, airplane/single engine land" Than means provided you have the apropriate endorsements you can hop into ANY single engine airplane.

Get your PPL in a PA-28, get your HP & complex endorsements in Bonanza, hop right into a Caravan and fire it up. Never touched a turboprop before in your life? Not an issue in the eyes of the FAA.

Only when you start flying a few of the old WW2 fighters does the FAA step in requireing a letter of authorization (LOA) for anything bigger than an AT-6.

no where in my staement does it say that it's an FAA requirment. ive rented from 4 or 5 diffrent fbos and they all required at least a checkout. one back in my home town requires one every 90 days if you're not a regular student of theirs which is BS i tthink
 
RichardRambone said:
If it has an engine and wings it'll fly.

How true. And if it has enough wing, it doesn't need an engine and vice versa.

As John and Martha like to say "Keep the shiny side up, the dirty side down, and please, stay out of the trees!"
 
ackattacker said:
How true. And if it has enough wing, it doesn't need an engine and vice versa.

As John and Martha like to say "Keep the shiny side up, the dirty side down, and please, stay out of the trees!"

Sir,


Please refrain from any John and Martha quotes, references, or inferences as I am still trying to recover from a devastating case of severe chronic catatonic boredom from watching their dvd's before my PPL checkride. I am yet to recover fully and still subject to flashbacks and outbursts in anger over the wasted two hundred dollars on those videos.


Sincerely,


Nooky
 

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