Hand flying vs. Autopilot

[BUDDHA145]

To the CRJ jocks: we can hear you disconnect at 200 ft. every time as far back as row 9.

HAHAHA...ok is true but we also know that the reason mainline dont do it is cause you dont know if you be able to keep it up!!!!

you buch of limpies!!!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

The only problem I have with the 'heavy turn' on to the runway is that it is usually followed by a flex thrust or derated takeoff. They save as much runway as they can and follow it with a 20% reduction which wastes runway anyway.

What a stupid comment.

Derate/flex saves engines..which can save your butt one of these days... not to mention makes it much less likely to blow a motor on takeoff.

Who cares if someone "heavy turns?" It's their runway. Runway behind you is of no use if something goes wrong.

 

[G2T]

Making a big boy turn when I'm told to position and hold on the runway and have nothing better to do for a minute is one of the few joys I have in my day, what's wrong with that?

 

[Captainzero1]

I have seen big boy turns done in TP, gimme a break on that one.

 

[shamrock]

Can somebody explain to me the use of "heavy turns" when turning from a parallel taxiway to hold short at the end of the runway? Is being exactly perpendicular to the runway when holding short really that important? I don't really care if anybody does it, I'm just curious as to why. Kind of like the "how long is final" thing...

 

[ground stop]

easier to check for traffic maybe?

 

[Willy21]

Maybe they are at MGTOW and their aircraft has a heavy footprint. Seeing as how in ATL short of 26L there isn't alot of room to get rolling before you make the turn they do this so they don't blast the guy behind them.

 

[shamrock]

I've had Delta guys on the jumpseat when the DL plane in front of us (usually an 88) does that and none of them have had an answer as to why it's done.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

With regard to "heavy turns", or rather judgmental oversteer, its not hurting anything and beside its good practice for getting to know where the aircraft's rear wheels really are. Very helpful if you ever have to maneuver on narrow taxiways to avoid dragging your wheels through the mud.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Can somebody explain to me the use of "heavy turns" when turning from a parallel taxiway to hold short at the end of the runway? Is being exactly perpendicular to the runway when holding short really that important? I don't really care if anybody does it, I'm just curious as to why. Kind of like the "how long is final" thing...

For larger aircraft it leaves more room for the other aircraft behind you and also reduces the power to get onto the runway.

It's good technique to get the airplane rolling before you begin to turn the nosewheel. I've seen a bunch of CRJ900 drivers make this mistake in ATL trying to turn out of the gate. Turning that nosewheel before you get her moving is only going to increase the final radius of the turn as well as requiring a rediculous amount of power...not to mention rubbing the tire.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

With regard to "heavy turns", or rather judgmental oversteer, its not hurting anything and beside its good practice for getting to know where the aircraft's rear wheels really are. Very helpful if you ever have to maneuver on narrow taxiways to avoid dragging your wheels through the mud.

Exactly!

 

[waka]

The only problem I have is why people actually give a rats a$$ what other people do, especially since it doesnt affect/concern them in the first place.

and why do you give a rat's ass about what people say about what people do? This could go on and on. What's your problem? Is your ego bruised when someone points out the futility of a "heavy turn" in an RJ to line up on a 10k ft runway?

 

[Dumb Pilot]

This entire thread is another fine example as to why you shouldn't post while drunk, jeeeez

 

[flyboyzii]

As far as the hand flying...I have flown with some who really need the practice. I generally hand fly on t-off till 10,000 and sometimes on the arrival all the way down (below 10,000) Depends on the wx and the workload.

As far as the "heavy" line up....I do it because in the event of an abort I will have that little extra to stomp the fire out. On a taxi way turning for the runway I do it so I won't blast the A/C behind me when I begin to move. (not that I jam the power levers fwd but when they give you the "no delay" Pos & hold I don't blast the folks behind me. Is that okay or do I need permission from others beforehand?? I figure it's common courtesy. Some may be practicing for the future when the Regionals will be flying 777's for $65 per hour.

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

Also remember that passengers notice. They are used to mainline flights, which are most often A/P on from flaps up to Vapp.

Used to mainline flights? Maybe if you flew in the 80's. Regionals operate half of the daily flights in the United States.