GVSP or a Global Express?

[Swass]

Hey Guys and Gals,
Which would you rather fly for your dream job? Personally I like the Gulfstream (don't tell my wife, she works for Bombardier). The demo Global really kicks a$$ though.

 

[hogdriver00]

Here we go again

This is where GV signs on and explains how the Global operates against the laws of nature and physics. Then explains how the GV is the only aircraft that displays pure aeronautical perfection.

 

[Dep676]

Didn't they stop production on the Global anyway? Is that something else I am thinking of?

 

[Swass]

I know they shut down a couple of Learjet models for a couple of months but I was not aware that they shut down the Global as well. Things are looking pretty dim at Bombardier, but it hopefully won't last too long.

 

[TMMT]

The Globule Espresso has its fair share of problems and then some.

It’s not living up to AFM book numbers as far as performance goes and I’ve heard this several times from more than one crew, Toyota has complained specifically about this to Bombardier.

I attended recurrent with a Toyota G-IV crew recently and they had no much good to say about the jet.

TAI has a G-V as well and from what they say it flies rings around the Espresso not to mention for every LA to Sendai run they make in the Espresso, she logs about a day in maintance whereas the G-V can go the whole month w/o a trip over to the Gulfstream side of LGB.

Besides the a$$ end of the thing just looks, well, funny.

TMMT

 

[TMMT]

FlyChicaga,


Is that your sister?

 

[JetPilot500]

I think range will become a big selling point for the G550 (formerly GVSP).

GEX - 6,050 NM
G550- 6,750 NM

700 Miles is a huge difference. The Early GV and the GEX would struggle to get to ASIA from NY. The G550 should (in theory) be able to do it every time. If you need to stop for fuel anyhow, why pay all the extra money for a GEX when you could do the same mission in a GIV, DA900 or CL604.

If you don't need to go to ASIA, then I suppose it doesn't matter a whole lot. If you don't care about the range, the GEX has a great cabin.

JetPilot500

 

[Muddauber]

Global sux - GV Rules

 

[750driver]

Let's see, hmmm, some fine choices:

1. Global Express.
2. Gulfstream V-SP.
3. Office Desk.

I think I'll take either door #1 or #2
BTW - FlyChicaga ... love the avatar!

 

[El Cid Av8or]

I'll take the Gulfstream. I do wish that they didn't change the number scheme to 400, 500, 550, etc. I like the IV, V, etc scheme better. I'll fly it either way but I have a long wait in line and I have to finish up my ratings too

And FlyChicaga... I like the avatar too. Can you get her to change poses though?

 

[Computer Geek]

You guys kill me... If you needed a job you would fly either one.

CG

 

[El Cid Av8or]

Computer Geek: Yes, that is probably true but I would still prefer the G-V.

FlyChicaga: Well, yes. But it can be done at other angles of attack!

 

[Swass]

I just asked which one you like better. Of course we would fly either for a job, hell, any job in the cockpit is a good one right now. I thought it would be an interesting topic to comment on that's all. Take it easy CG.

 

[GEXDriver]

GEX or GV

For what it's worth, our Global has not been very reliable. Relays failing, trouble on startup and non-existent Bombardier support. It also won't go as far, as high or as fast as they said it would. Our pilots who got to fly on the Gulfstream demo said they liked the GV a lot better, but the company bought the Global.

 

[GVFlyer]

Re: Here we go again

This is where GV signs on and explains how the Global operates against the laws of nature and physics. Then explains how the GV is the only aircraft that displays pure aeronautical perfection.

The Global operates against the laws of nature and physics. The GV is the only aircraft that displays pure aeronautical perfection.

GV

 

[hogdriver00]

Old reliable

I knew I could count on you.

 

[sydeseet]

Now that's funny.

 

[Brett Hull]

You have to explain how!

No, no, GVFlyer. He said you have to EXPLAIN HOW the global operates against the laws of nature and physics, not that it just does.

We're waiting.

 

[banned username 2]

Re: You have to explain how!

No, no, GVFlyer. He said you have to EXPLAIN HOW the global operates against the laws of nature and physics, not that it just does.

We're waiting.

Oh Man! NOW you have done it... you've "Poked the Bear"!

RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GVFlyer]

Fly Chicaga

What kind of magic?

 

[GVFlyer]

Re: You have to explain how!

No, no, GVFlyer. He said you have to EXPLAIN HOW the global operates against the laws of nature and physics, not that it just does.

We're waiting.

Check your PM's. If I do one more iteration of why the GV is a Wonder Jet and the Global Excuse is the flying equivalent of a fishing trawler, the denizens of this board will be trying to get through my server with pitchforks and torches.

GV

 

[hogdriver00]

Agreement!!

If I do one more iteration of why the GV is a Wonder Jet and the Global Excuse is the flying equivalent of a fishing trawler, the denizens of this board will be trying to get through my server with pitchforks and torches


We can agree on Something.

 

[bigD]

You guys are all hitting the pipe WAY too hard.

The G-V? C'mon...I don't care how well the thing flies - it fell from the ugly tree and hit every friggin branch on the way down.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - it's all about the Citation X! Be sure to tell me all about how well your G-V handles as I'm blowing by at .92.

 

[GVFlyer]

What???


Big D,

It must hurt to be so misinformed. This is from the FAI World Record Book for speed over a recognized course. The Citation has the record for speed in it's class, but not overall - that belongs to the Gulfstream. Just so you don't have to get out your calculator, the GV averaged 535 MPH from New York to Los Angeles in the factory demonstrator; the Citation was over 26 MPH slower.

Teterboro, NJ (USA) - Van Nuys, CA (USA) : 819.39 km/h
Speed over a recognised course
Benjamin M. BUDZOWSKI (USA), Mark O. SCHLEGEL
11/05/1995 Aircraft:
Cessna 750 Citation X
Registration: N752CX
Engines: 2 x Allison GMA 3007C, 6 000 lb each

Teterboro, NJ (USA) - Van Nuys, CA (USA) : 861.98 km/h
Speed over a recognised course
Tom OWENS (USA), Christian M. KENNEDY
03/07/2000 Aircraft:
Gulfstream Aerospace G-V
Registration: N5GA
Engines: 2 x BMW Rolls-Royce BR710, 14.750 lbs each

The G-V? C'mon...I don't care how well the thing flies - it fell from the ugly tree and hit every friggin branch on the way down.

Have you actually seen a GV, or just had a Citation salesman tell you what he thinks one looks like?

Sober up before you attempt a reply.

GV








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[hogdriver00]

GV

You had to get him started again didn't you?

 

[banned username 2]

You guys are all hitting the pipe WAY too hard.

The G-V? C'mon...I don't care how well the thing flies - it fell from the ugly tree and hit every friggin branch on the way down.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - it's all about the Citation X! Be sure to tell me all about how well your G-V handles as I'm blowing by at .92.

Oh man! What did you go and do THAT for... he was sleeping quietly!

Will you guys ever learn!?!?

Besides everyone who is anyone already knows the 900EX looks better than both of those ugly machines!

 

[bigD]

LOL! Part of the fun of writing my post was the anticipation of GVFlyer sniffing it out and responding!

My Acura will go 400 miles on one tank of gas at some given speed. A Ferrarri might do 400 miles as well, but I'd be willing to bet that it'd have to be travelling much slower than the Acura to make 400 miles on one tank. So when I'm out cruising for chicks, do I take the Acura because it can maintain a faster speed over a specific distance?

Nope.

But hey GVFlyer - you know darned well that I'd take your job flying the G-V any day, so don't take it personally! After all, when I'm in the cockpit, I can't see the ugly monstrosity wrapped around me anyway! And when I'm approaching the plane on the ground, I'll just remember to walk backwards.

::hopes GVFlyer knows that everything I say is tongue in cheek::

 

[bigD]

Hey FalconCapt - that 900EX is definitely a classy bird! I'm not going to argue with you there. Especially since I hope to get a cockpit tour the next time you're down at KAUS!

 

[banned username 2]

Hey FalconCapt - that 900EX is definitely a classy bird! I'm not going to argue with you there. Especially since I hope to get a cockpit tour the next time you're down at KAUS!

As long as I get some BBQ at the Salt Lick!

 

[bigD]

That's a deal!