Gulfstream PICs

[John Pennekamp]

I made the move from ASA to GIA and my QOL has improved tremendously. Pay is about what I was making at ASA, but I was a line-holder right out of training with 14 - 16 days off a month at GIA. At ASA after two years, I could only hold 4 day trips. Here I hold 2 and 3 day trips.

I haven't had any real issues with dispatch or mx. When a plane breaks, I write it up. It is either MEL'd, fixed, or grounded. Dispatch has always worked with me when I have issues regarding weather.

I know people like to hate GIA because of their pay for training FO's, but for a 1900 operator, it really isn't a bad place to be. I'm racking up PIC time quicker than I would have had I stayed at ASA and waited another 2 years to upgrade. There are a few FO's you need to watch like a hawk, but as a former CFI, it's nothing new to me. And yes, our contract is pretty good. Reserves get a min of 11 days off a month... so does every other regional. We get min pay of 4 hrs for every day of work and have other nice perks I didn't have at ASA.

So yeah, I didn't have SJS, and decided to make the move back into the T-Prop. Do I fly 6, 7 or 8 legs a day? Yeah. But my time at work is efficiently used, versus, flying two legs a day at ASA and having a 4 day trip valued at only 16 hours.

Last thing I'll say about this place is that I don't intend to be here forever. Hopefully the economy doesn't get too screwed up and I'll be out after a relatively short time. But I am way happier flying at Gulfstream, logging my PIC, and having time off to enjoy being at home.

You failed to mention that you now make less as a GIA cap than ASA FOs make under the new contract. If you stayed, you'd be a CRJ captain right now, making about $60 an hour and flying 80+ a month. Where will you go when the economy tanks?

 

[EatinRamen]

No I wouldn't. Please don't make stuff up. If I had upgraded, I'd be sitting on reserve for a long time as an RJ captain. Plus the upgrade is still around 3 years, I believe. ASA's travel bennefits stink now. Schedules still suck as well.

It's not all about the money jack@ss. I'm home more than I ever was at ASA.

 

[capt1900]

I've been on the Emb-120 for 3 months now and it has not broken down on me.

 

[John Pennekamp]

No I wouldn't. Please don't make stuff up. If I had upgraded, I'd be sitting on reserve for a long time as an RJ captain. Plus the upgrade is still around 3 years, I believe. ASA's travel bennefits stink now. Schedules still suck as well.

It's not all about the money jack@ss. I'm home more than I ever was at ASA.

Jackass? Who's the jackass? Um, you walked away from jet PIC and $65K a year to fly a 1900 at a PFT airline with a bunch of kids, pal. Just pointing out that your decision wasn't for everyone, as you seemed to promote. You didn't even make a lateral move, you moved down. Good luck getting hired anywhere but a regional with all that 1900 pic time.

 

[chrisrj83]

Jackass? Who's the jackass? Um, you walked away from jet PIC and $65K a year to fly a 1900 at a PFT airline with a bunch of kids, pal. Just pointing out that your decision wasn't for everyone, as you seemed to promote. You didn't even make a lateral move, you moved down. Good luck getting hired anywhere but a regional with all that 1900 pic time.

Who are you to judge his decision to go to another airline. He said earlier he has at least another year to upgrade in the jet. He also said his quality of life went up. As far as only getting hired by a regional with his PIC 1900 time. I can think of a handful of people that are waiting for class dates a Southwest, Spirit, Northwest, and Airtran just to name a few. Do a little research before you open your mouth next time.

 

[EatinRamen]

Hey Peniscramp... if I remember correctly, ASA was a PFT airline too at one point. I know this to be true, because a couple of my sim instructors at ASA said they did the PFT to get their jobs there. Why you gotta be a player hater?

 

[dickburns]

Hey Peniscramp... if I remember correctly, ASA was a PFT airline too at one point. I know this to be true, because a couple of my sim instructors at ASA said they did the PFT to get their jobs there. Why you gotta be a player hater?

Most people don't realize you have to do whats best for you, not them. Obviously you did that, youre getting some pic, living where you want to live I imagine, so you did no wrong. I doubt the 1900 pic is going to be looked at differently because its a tprop, its 121 turbine pic, flight experience is great, but it still helps to know the right people.

 

[norskman2]

Good luck getting hired anywhere but a regional with all that 1900 pic time.

I love that one. Yeah, a couple thousand hours of 1900 PIC time and you won't get hired anywhere...except maybe just about every major.

 

[tathepilot]

1. My last job I took home $1000-1300 per week.
2. I was flying a jet.
3. Now I'm at GIA.
4. I'm happy at GIA.
Reason for leaving my last job.... TPIC

To each his (or her) own..

Like Chrisrj83 said Everyone that is leaving GIA is going on to better places..


Don't hate someone for who they work for, hate them because they stole your girl..

 

[John Pennekamp]

1. My last job I took home $1000-1300 per week.
2. I was flying a jet.
3. Now I'm at GIA.
4. I'm happy at GIA.
Reason for leaving my last job.... TPIC

To each his (or her) own..

Like Chrisrj83 said Everyone that is leaving GIA is going on to better places..


Don't hate someone for who they work for, hate them because they stole your girl..

I didn't start the name calling, he did. All I said is that maybe he didn't look at the big picture before jumping ship, and maybe shouldn't be suggesting it to others.

If y'all like GIA good on ya. I don't "hate" because I really couldn't care less. But I think the industry would agree GIA is nothing to brag about.

 

[CA1900]

Captains authority is nearly non-existant however, scheduling, maint control and dispatch will try to brow beat you into taking a broken airplane into bad weather.

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For the most part the f/o's are up to speed but don't let your guard down....

I knew I made a good decision refusing the Gulfstream flight my company tried to book me on the other day.

 

[Captjiggles]

Get that TPIC playa playa!!!!

 

[tathepilot]

I knew I made a good decision refusing the Gulfstream flight my company tried to book me on the other day.

I'm glad u did refuse that flight.. I needed to get home that day, thanks...

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