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Again, a clean sheet design is not a derivative of anything.

Edit: I guess the contract wording was changed from "or derivative aircraft" to successor aircraft, my bad.

Under the 2005 agreement you would have been correct. NJI was restricted to derivatives of the G4 and G5.

Under the 2007 agreement it was changed to restricting NJA to derivatives of the G150 and G200.

Something else that got lost in the fine print ...
 
Okay, so I was wrong about two things: customer deliveries in 2012, not 2010. My bad. I guess that fly-by-wire stuff will slow down certification a little bit. And the price will be NORTH of $50 million, not south. The falling dollar is a beotch.

And if you think this was a "clean-sheet" design, you've been reading too many press releases. The vast majority of the systems, with the exception of the FBW, will be enhancements of proven Gulfstream systems. I expect this type-rating course for anyone with Gulfstream experience to be even more of a snore than the V was.
 
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I don't think it will be a FBW issue for certification. They have been working on it for 5 years and flying it on a GV testbed for a year. They have to build it first, have production conforming prototypes then flight test. Not a quick process. All talk in SAV is they are shooting for the G5 type to cover the 650 with differences training. Planeview, EVS, and SV-PFD are all the same as the newer 550's coming off the line.
 
I hope so but that's what they thought about the V. The conspiracy theorist in me says the same people that lobbied the FAA to demand a separate type for the V versus the IV will do the same here. Money to be made if you know what I mean...
 
Under the 2005 agreement you would have been correct. NJI was restricted to derivatives of the G4 and G5.

Under the 2007 agreement it was changed to restricting NJA to derivatives of the G150 and G200.

Something else that got lost in the fine print ...

Nothing changed between the 2005 and the 2007 agreement. Section 1 remains intact as it was without change. The LOA that you referenced is LOA 01-001 signed Oct 8 2005 and that is still intact as well.
 
I hope so but that's what they thought about the V. The conspiracy theorist in me says the same people that lobbied the FAA to demand a separate type for the V versus the IV will do the same here. Money to be made if you know what I mean...


I think it will be the same type. They are just doing the same thing as falcon did with the 50 and 900. There is a considerable amount of differences between those two. No idea what happened on the G IV and V.
 
It does not matter anyway. It is the same type certificate.

If we do order 10 of them I wonder if they'll be thrown in with the V, 550 and 450 or be the start of a separate fleet?
 

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