Great Lakes

[Jet_Dreamer]

khsgt-be glad you are flight instructing. it is rough out there. i suggest a more positive attitude. no flame here. just pointing out the facts. i have a resume at lakes, but they havent called me yet.

 

[flythere]

Any word on Jan 03 new hire class at Lakes?? Looking at past posts, sounds like you have to get a sponsor on the inside at Lakes to get an interview!!

 

[khsgt]

Jet Dreamer, I am very lucky to have the instructing job that I have, it is well paying with the opportunity for multi time, but, I have been at it a couple of years and just looking to move on (I am happy where I am at for now though). Thanks guys for your help, and keep the greasy side down, even if it is with students.

 

[Av8ter]

With over 500 turbine and 1500 total do you guys think I'll be called anytime soon. I spent over an hour and a half and $28 for that online application last month. OR, like every other friggin regional out there, do you have to be married to the CP's daughter, or have 5000 total and 2000 PIC, and be 21 years old.

God, I'm getting tired of this s#%

Av8ter

 

[hobbsmeter]

Fax:

I believe this is their fax number: (307) 432-7071

 

[skyking1976]

Does anyone know if they pay attention to the faxes from that number?

 

[canadflyau]

Does anyone know if they pay attention to the faxes from that number?

They will probably disregard it and it may hurt you in the app process, b/c if an applicant did any research they would see that Lakes REQUIRES you to apply online. Just might show you don't follow directions to the HR folks.

"do you have to be married to the CP's daughter, or have 5000 total and 2000 PIC, and be 21 years old. God, I'm getting tired of this s#%"

If that is how you feel, then you need to get out of this industry. This has always been an industry where you need to make connections and smooze people, and I don't see that changing especially with the amount of over-qualified pilots on the street. Lakes wants people who are on there A game with there instrument skills, probably to be competetive around 1000TT, who aren't going to get the training/turbine time and leave immediately, and a letter of recommendation from a pilot at Lakes.

 

[flying4food]

I would love to work there, you are flying, making some money!! some benefits, Beat's not working at all!!!!

 

[Cornelius]

flying4food, think twice about your last comment. Yeah, you fly here and get alot of time. Yeah, I guess you make money here eventhough we qualify for low income. Yeah, it beats not flying at all. BUT, be prepared to get sh*t canned if you start a class in the near future. Negotiations are pointless because we are fighting an enemy who doesn't care. I see us going on strike in 2 months. I'm trying to jump ship as fast as I can because I want to be at a regional where I can be happy for 5 years. I speak from experience, I got furloughed from lakes middle of last year and thought I would never be back, but here I am. The sh*t I've gone throgh doesn't even compare to the majority of the pilots senior to me.

peace

 

[brianh]

Do you see them going out of business, or being gobbled up by another carrier??

 

[Marko Ramius]

Do you see them going out of business, or being gobbled up by another carrier??

Unfortunately brianh, it's likely the former versus the latter if management doesn't stop the aforementioned shennigans. The east side has all but been gobbled up by ACA, Air Wis, Skyway, Chicago Express, and anyone else I forgot. I just heard that Skyway won a bid for IMT, which I think only leaves ALO out of ORD. MSP appears safe, but something tells me Ornstein has plans for more EAS out of DEN which can't be good. How many flights a day can Worland stand? I also think that the debt that they've amassed makes them an unnattractive buyout candidate. I'd still go to ground school, if it was offered but keep beating the pavement like Cornelius.

 

[eaglefly]

Most in the industry know that "great shakes" is a bottom of the barrel "hack" outfit.

It has little to do with the pilots, though. Most 1900 (or equivilent size) operators are shoestring guys trying to maximize their wallet at anyones expense. Look at Gulfstream. Another garbage outfit.

If you want to build time for 12-18 months (especially if you're low time), its probably the best bet going right now.

In fact GLA, has a better rep than Gulfstream.

 

[Cornelius]

we're out of ORD in a month or two completely. Right now we're only able to serve 3 cities out of ORD and the overhead is too high to keep on serving those cities. Its official.