Good flight schools to instruct at.......

[pgcfii2002]

Looking at AZ, CA, NM, CO.........anywhere basically.

 

[redW&blue]

cfi

We are hiring,

[email protected]

 

[unreal]

Welp, ERAU Prescott is usually hiring at certain times of the year. Even though I might not agree with some of ERAU's practices, it's still a damn good place to work.

-$15.31/hr until 750 dual given, then $17.75/hr until 1200 dual given. After that, it goes up to something like $20.30/hr. Pretty decent cash for northern AZ.
-Guaranteed students.
-Full benefits (medical/dental/vision).
-403(b) retirement account.
-New(er) equipment, including some cool toys like ADS-B.
-Free tuition for undergraduate/graduate courses. I'm going to start on a Masters next semester. Why the hell not? It's free.

Anyway, just a thought.

 

[mcjohn]

Those ERAU perks sound pretty sweet. I think Mesa Pilot Development in Farmington NM would be nice. They'll give you an MEI to instruct in their Barons after 6 months of instructing in their A36es. Pay is good and they pretty much guarantee you'll instruct 1000 hrs per year. Folks I've talked to that instructed there said the gig was great but the company sux so they didn't want to stay too long.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Thanks.....I haven't instructed in a little over a year....looking to get back into the game.

 

[pgcfii2002]

What about housing in Prescott?

 

[unreal]

Don't let your recency get you down. I'd barely flown in 2 years prior to my interview with ERAU, and I got the job. I was barely current and put down a pretty crappy interview flight, but the new-hire training will take care of the kinks.

Housing...not bad, but it's getting more expensive. Houses in Prescott itself are getting more expensive, but Prescott Valley is still relatively cheap. Versus somewhere like Socal though, it's cheap as hell. I rent a 1600 sqft. house here in Prescott (3 bed, 2 bath) for $1200/month.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Wow, I'm surprised they hired you with so little recency.

How much do 1/1 apartments go for?

 

[pgcfii2002]

What is the average monthly pay there at Riddle?

 

[flyingnome]

bad haha, no seriously its not really that great. The one good thing is the benifits. I worked there for a year and made 13,000 bring home and I worked my ass off. After graduation there, it was the easiest job to get out of the door. Good expirience, just lousy pay.

I have 2 buddys there that are senior flight instructors whom give checkrides and made about the same this year. You are not going to get rich thats a fact. But the benifits are good...

There are better jobs out there you just have to look. I am sure people like it there, just was not my cup of tea. Also are you good at monitering a sim?

 

[flyingnome]

-Free tuition for undergraduate/graduate courses.

Definatly a good perk, only downside is paying the difference of taxes of about a grand as they just include it as "untaxed income." But it is a great deal considering what classes cost. Also the free MEI upgrade as long as you sign a 1 yr contract.

 

[unreal]

bad haha, no seriously its not really that great. The one good thing is the benifits. I worked there for a year and made 13,000 bring home and I worked my ass off. After graduation there, it was the easiest job to get out of the door. Good expirience, just lousy pay.

I have 2 buddys there that are senior flight instructors whom give checkrides and made about the same this year. You are not going to get rich thats a fact. But the benifits are good...

There are better jobs out there you just have to look. I am sure people like it there, just was not my cup of tea. Also are you good at monitering a sim?

I agree with you on the pay issues. The hourly rate is okay, but your take-home isn't very good. The benefits are nice.

As far as the sims go, yeah, that's my #1 beef with the school. We spend way too much dang time in the sim, and it seems as though the school went Part 142 in the first place just so they could put a use to the really really expensive toys they bought. Definitely not the best place to build time, but they treat you well. Though there are imperfections, it is still a good place to work IMO.

To answer the OP's question on monthly income: It's varied between $1300 and $1800 for me. $1300 has been what I've been getting after thanksgiving up until now, and I've been working the crap out of a couple students who are staying to get done with their courses. From my hire date of Aug 29th, 2006 until the end of the last pay period (Nov 30th, 2006), my YTD take-home was $5,278.33. Meh. YMMV.

 

[kingaira90]

another option

The few people I know that actually made decent cash instructing did so at flying clubs. Generally the instructor keeps all the pay ($25-$50hr depending on location) and the student rents the aircraft themselves.I have a good friend that made more money doing that then I do now, and I am pretty happy with my income as a da-20 fo. Although these situations are generally entirely self motivated. IE they got their own business. Saw it a flying clubs in FL, NC, and MI. Maybe something like that is in you current area. Even do it as side work with your current job. Since most working students fly evenings and weekends anyway. Good luck what ever you choose. -kingaira90

 

[pgcfii2002]

Pretty sad though, the CFI bit pays so little....for a job with lots of responsibility.

 

[Jennyjenjen]

I work at a school called Oxford Airline Training. The company's headquarters are in the UK. All the students go through 6 months of ground school in the UK, then they come to Phoenix to do thier flight training. There are no orals, I do a sim about once a week, and it's salaried at $30,000 a year. I go in around 11am (I make my own schedule) and fly at least once with each of my four students...There is very little supervison my management, meaning, I can fly more if I want, there are plenty of hours to be had, but I fly about 60 a month, and then there are some guys that fly 100 hours a month. But still at the end of the month, no matter how much I worked, $2,000 is directly deposited into my account. The interview is only HR, the only thing is, you must have 500TT an 200 Dual Given. There isn't a contract unless you agree to the instrument or multi instruction, then you would make $35,000 a year, and would have to sign a 9 month contract.

- $30,000 a year
- Medical, Dental, and Vision
- 401k
- 6 vacation days the first year
- Paid Holidays
- 401k
- Uniform provided

We're hiring, if you have any questions PM me.

 

[flyingnome]

30K is actually not bad for a CFI job in Arizona, pretty damn good. I have seen some of the oxford planes at Goodyear in the past.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Oxford Airline Training CenterAddress1:1658 S. Litchfield RoadAddress2:Bldg 104, Suite 2City/State/Zip:Goodyear AZ 85338Country:USAPhone1:623-882-3467Phone2:623-882-3466FAX:623-882-3474EMail:[email protected]Web URL:www.oxfordaviation.netJobTitle:Flight InstructorJob Location:Goodyear, ArizonaSummary:Oxford Airline Training Center, located at the Phoenix-Goodyear Airport in Arizona, provides an excellent venue for experienced instructors who want a stabilized work environment or to gain the experience and hours needed to move forward with an aviation career. Salary begins at $2K per month during training and jumps to $2500/month upon satisfactory completion of the training and proficiency checks. We offer monthly and yearly bonuses. Our flight instructors have the potential to fly 850 hours per year when following the prescribed syllabus. We also offer opportunities to advance to Single Engine IFR instructor and Multi-Engine instructor positions. All positions are full-time and the benefits associated with working for a large multi- national company are excellent.Qualifications:Minimum qualifications: 500 total flight hours/200 dual given.Date Posted:14-Dec-2006 04:26 Last Updated:14-Dec-2006 04:27

 

[pgcfii2002]

Not bad pay, I must admit.

I'm only short 180 hours of dual.

How is the market down in Phoenix for a low time CFI like me???

 

[pilotsh]

Flight schools that "ask" for a certain amount of dual given time are like the regionals asking for 1500 TT mins. They wished they could find people with that many hours, but in the real world, people are getting hired with far less. CFI jobs are a dime a dozen. Here is the AOPA's site in case you don't know it:http://www.aopa.org/insearchof/schools/schoolview.cfmjust apply! What's the worst that could happen?

 

[mcjohn]

Crap. I've been taking the mins pretty seriously. Then again I'm kind of stuck.

 

[sqwkvfr]

Flight schools that "ask" for a certain amount of dual given time are like the regionals asking for 1500 TT mins. They wished they could find people with that many hours, but in the real world, people are getting hired with far less. CFI jobs are a dime a dozen. Here is the AOPA's site in case you don't know it:http://www.aopa.org/insearchof/schools/schoolview.cfmjust apply! What's the worst that could happen?

That's true for the most part, but Oxford's dual given requirement is a hard and fast CAA (UK's FAA) requirement. After training and an "acceptance flight" you are issued a certificate by the CAA that allows you to train under their rules.

If you're low time and looking in PHX, try this place. They have the nicest equipment of anyone in town and the pay scale starts at $16 an hour and moves progessively through $18 and tops out at $20 if you bill more than 35 hours in a two week period.

I wouldn't just fax them a resume...if you can, make your way to town and stop in and talk to Bill.

If you'd like more skinny on the places to avoid in the PHX area (there are a bunch) drop me a PM.

 

[mcjohn]

Umm..why does "this place" require a password?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Umm..why does "this place" require a password?

If you don't know the password, then you're not supposed to know why.

Just kidding. Actually, I don't know what the deal is....they've had problems with their server in the past, and I'd guess that's the case now. It's most likely a temporary problem and should be back Monday.

The link is for AngelAir (yeah, it's one word, for some reason) at P19 and the website is www.flyangelair.com.

 

[unreal]

AngelAir is actually a pretty solid operation. I flew out of there a little bit. P19 is a pretty cool little airport, too.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Thanks....I think Arizona is a good place to instruct, hopefully better than it has been in the past.

 

[unreal]

Thanks....I think Arizona is a good place to instruct, hopefully better than it has been in the past.

That it is. If you can stand the heat in the lowlands during the summer, you'll get a ton of flying done. Northern AZ has great year-round weather as well, but the monsoons hit us pretty hard in the afternoons basically everyday between June and August.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Yeah, I've heard about trying to instruct when its 120 outside!!!

I don't care.....can't wait to get back into the CFI market.

 

[Jennyjenjen]

If you get all your flying done before noon down in Phoenix before the temp. heats up to 120, you can hit up the pool at the airport in the afternoon

 

[RedEye1]

we need a pic jennyjen

 

[FishOn!]

Alaska flight instructor needed

Anyone interested in instructing in Alaska, contact the Alaska Flying Network at 907-283-5700. Its a great place to build some time and learn what real flying is. Its located in Kenai. Its not a bush village so the quality of living is excellent.