Good Article on AWA/AAA

[Joey Bagodonutz]

This pretty much sums it.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008...-have-the-merged-company-in-a-real-tailspin/1

 

[Max Powers]

What I thought was completely funny the other day was the usair to Cactus switch over. I flew up and down the eastern seaboard that day. Never heard so many "usair" or "usair/cactus" flight number. One controller told an aircraft to knock it off and use the correct call signal the usair guys came back with some childish retort.

Usair guys, not all, but most are a bunch of childish little babys that fell for all the Union Kool-Aid over the years. They failed to see the reality of their situation and choose to blame a group that had nothing to do with their precarious situation.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Probably the most complete, accurate, and least condescending article I have ever seen on the debacle that is the new USAirways.

I was checking in for a flight on Cactus the day after the merger was announced. I asked the ticket agent what Parker had been smoking. She thought the merger was a great idea. I wonder if she still thinks so.

 

[Flybywire44]

I'll go ahead and spoil the ending for everyone. The author concedes that East won over West...

 

[becket]

I'll go ahead and spoil the ending for everyone. The author concedes that East won over West...

They won the Election. That's all she said. Not hard to do when you outnumber the other side 2 to 1.

Just another typical East Azzhole leaving out the bulk of the story and hoping the rest of the world is too stupid to notice. F.U..

Aside from that, USAPA has accomplished nothing. Each and every one of them and their supporters are nothing but cowardly pieces of sh** and the West will never stop pounding them until they're dead and buried.

 

[Ocity]

USAPA is an insult to POS scumbags everywhere.

 

[BeCareful!]

Decent article, but quite obviously slanted west.

I lost count of how many times she (wrongly) says that negotiations can't proceed without a list.

it affects every pilot at US Airways that they can't begin to negotiate a new contract until they have a seniority list.

AND:

But until they hash out their union problems, they simply can't begin negotiating with US Airways brass.



This, of course, isn't true. Negotiations are taking place, and there is a schedule for more this month, next month, etc. It's about the normal pace for these talks.

Anyway, I especially like how some west pilot got the writer to use the word "scab" in the improper, meaningless way that y'all use it. Nice touch

 

[Noserider76]

Is there a lawsuit yet by the West guys to force the union formed to screw them to accept the binding arbitration award?

 

[TWA Dude]

Is there a lawsuit yet by the West guys to force the union formed to screw them to accept the binding arbitration award?

No, there hasn't been a suit filed yet to force them to fairly represent the West.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Decent article, but quite obviously slanted west.

I didn't think it was slanted West at all. It just laid out the facts. An objective, intellectually honest assessment of the situation concludes that the East leadership continues to cling to an untenable demand and refuses to acknowledge the BINDING arbitration decision of an arbitrator THAT THEY SELECTED. The article made that conclusion patently obvious to any non-aviation reader. Passion and self-righteousness on both sides have clouded the underlying argument to the point that resolution is highly unlikely.

 

[becket]

No, there hasn't been a suit filed yet to force them to fairly represent the West.

I reliable source told me it was filed late today. We'll see. If not, it will be very soon.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Just curious how many of the West folks are paying dues to USAPA?

 

[becket]

Just curious how many of the West folks are paying dues to USAPA?

28. half of them are also organizers of the suit against usapa.

 

[elguapo9]

"At the time of the merger with America West, US Airways hadn't hired a new pilot in 17 years."

"The US Airways guys are, generally, much older. Robert W. Mann, an airline analyst and consultant, says that endless financial problems, particularly those following 9/11, led to 1,691 of its 5,000 pilots being "furloughed.""

"And, virtually every US Airways pilot who'd been hired since 1987 was stuck on furlough"

So, they hired 1,691 pilots in 1988?? Big year...

 

[Dan Roman]

I'll go ahead and spoil the ending for everyone. The author concedes that East won over West...

They won that battle, they are losing the war, badly...

 

[Cardinal]

Interesting article.

Just watched all 15 parts of "Can't take the Heat, USAPA in the Desert" Action, comedy, irony, hate and discontent. Could win an Oscar if it wasn't reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-FZXBppayI&feature=related

 

[MCDU]

This ariticle is very one sided and leaves out many facts and is also filled with half truths and inaccurate reporting. It was a complete waste of my time reading it.

You Westies can drool all day long about the Nic award. But the fact is that it will be DOH with fences and protections. That way Westies will get what they had prior to the merger and nothing else. PHX and LAS.

M

 

[becket]

This ariticle is very one sided and leaves out many facts and is also filled with half truths and inaccurate reporting. It was a complete waste of my time reading it.

You Westies can drool all day long about the Nic award. But the fact is that it will be DOH with fences and protections. That way Westies will get what they had prior to the merger and nothing else. PHX and LAS.

M

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

See you Eastholes in Court.

 

[Bringupthebird]

This ariticle is very one sided and leaves out many facts and is also filled with half truths and inaccurate reporting. It was a complete waste of my time reading it.

You Westies can drool all day long about the Nic award. But the fact is that it will be DOH with fences and protections. That way Westies will get what they had prior to the merger and nothing else. PHX and LAS.

M

There are 3 sides to the argument: East, West and Company. The Company wouldn't comment and the East couldn't defend it's irrationality, so it's no surprise that it's one sided.

The truth in this matter is pretty one sided. I think that was the point of the article in case you missed it.

 

[elguapo9]

Interesting article.

Just watched all 15 parts of "Can't take the Heat, USAPA in the Desert" Action, comedy, irony, hate and discontent. Could win an Oscar if it wasn't reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-FZXBppayI&feature=related

My favorite part is about 1/3 of the way into part 2 when the presenters are assured that the video won't be edited in any way. You're a bigger man than me if you could make it through all 15 episodes.