GoJets

[oceandude]

you guys are killing me! LOL!!

 

[Shrek]

LOL.........yeah from the top of Sears Tower ..........

Nah...don't wish harm on any of them........just that as many as possible never have another Pt.121 aviation job

 

[redbook]

LOL.........yeah from the top of Sears Tower ..........

Nah...don't wish harm on any of them........just that as many as possible never have another Pt.121 aviation job

Classic Shrek. I think your wish has become a reality for the gojet crews.

Oceandude don't quit! (or deny working at gojet like pilotbrain) Keep it up, these moments of humor at your expense are priceless.

 

[fuelflow]

Well, let's take a look at where GoJet pilots have come from, and where they are going. Pilots have come from:

TWA/AA
TSA
Chicago Express
American Eagle
ACA
Piedmont
Delta
ASA
Comair
United States Air Force
United States Navy
United States Army
United States Coast Guard


Pilots have left to (most with less than 1 year of service)

Continental
World Airways
Southwest
JetBlue
Airtran
Skybus
United States Air Force (F-16s)
Focus
Virgin (unconfirmed)
Various others...

Two pilots have assumed management positions with the above listed carriers.

The last pilot hired at CAL interviewed alongside a TSA pilot. Guess who got the job? The GoJet applicant.

It's not where you come from, it's who you are. Period. There isn't one pilot on this board who would go to an interview and spew this trash. It's bullsh**, all bullsh**. There are people on this board who don't know the first thing about this business and are screaming the loudest. Maybe they should post their resumes before opening their mouths.

I pity those waging war on their fellow pilots. Pilots who, believe it or not, see the pilot labor world not much differently than you do.

FF

 

[pilotbrain]

All very very true, however, it will fall on deaf ears and just continue to spread the hate. Why bother.

 

[redbook]

Well, let's take a look at where GoJet pilots have come from, and where they are going. Pilots have come from:

TWA/AA
TSA
Chicago Express
American Eagle
ACA
Piedmont
Delta
ASA
Comair
United States Air Force
United States Navy
United States Army
United States Coast Guard


Pilots have left to (most with less than 1 year of service)

Continental
World Airways
Southwest
JetBlue
Airtran
Skybus
United States Air Force (F-16s)
Focus
Virgin (unconfirmed)
Various others...

Two pilots have assumed management positions with the above listed carriers.

The last pilot hired at CAL interviewed alongside a TSA pilot. Guess who got the job? The GoJet applicant.

It's not where you come from, it's who you are. Period. There isn't one pilot on this board who would go to an interview and spew this trash. It's bullsh**, all bullsh**. There are people on this board who don't know the first thing about this business and are screaming the loudest. Maybe they should post their resumes before opening their mouths.

I pity those waging war on their fellow pilots. Pilots who, believe it or not, see the pilot labor world not much differently than you do.

FF

I pity those who join an alter ego carrier and are doomed.

I pity those who fall for your lies and misinformation.

The last TSA pilot to interview at CAl....HIRED.

The handful, or should I say ONE or TWO who got hired at the above airlines, have slipped through the cracks. Good luck with your efforts to hide you shame.

You are the scourge of the industry.

 

[redbook]

All very very true, however, it will fall on deaf ears and just continue to spread the hate. Why bother.

Oh, the senseless hate. You poor misunderstood lowlife alter ego pilot. Why bother?

You keep trying to rehabilitate your image, without any success.

You are right; it won't help you.

 

[redbook]

It's not where you come from, it's who you are. Period.
FF

Where you came from, in your case, is who you are. An alter ego pilot.
a gojet pilot for life.
A person of low character.
An individual with no integrity.
A person with no work ethic.
A person who will screw over those he works with for personal gain.

You are reviled, because you are truly loathsome.

 

[waterski]

JetBlue I don't think so

 

[motch]

FF...
What you say might be true about some of the GoJets scumbags getting hired on with other larger carriers but I have to believe that they probably had the minimums to get on with another carrier before they went to your airline. That being said, your list mentions a few ALPA carriers that your guys came from. So what you're saying is that an ALPA memeber knowingly went to another carrier that was trying to undermine ALPA and TSA pilots.

Those who know me know I don't have alot of love for ALPA National, but I do respect my union, and my union brothers and sisters. Anyone who went to GoJets after the rally in STL, after the article in the ALPA mag, and after the TSA pilots walked a line to try and regain what should have been ours to begin with; knows what they did and what they are.

Will people slip through the cracks and get on with bigger carriers?, of course. But the stigma of being a GoJet pilot will never go away.
At a recent course I attended, numerous pilots from other airlines (LCC, Majors, Cargo and regionals) asked me how it was going and to let me know we have their countinued support. The best was when a Delta pilot informed me how they (he's an FO) almost let a GJetter on board as a jumpseat. Only after he spoke with his captain and informed him of the situation, did the Captain deny the jumpseat.

I'm not here to advocate a jumpseat war, nor will I say that a pilot from GoJet won't get on at CO, JB, FedEx.. etc, But I'll say this.. there are more of us out there than of you. I can live with those odds.

To all the pilots from other airlines who read this and have countinued to support us.. thanks. Fly Safe and Fly YOUR contract...it's nice to have one! LOL

Always
Motch

 

[fuelflow]

I pity those who join an alter ego carrier and are doomed.

I pity those who fall for your lies and misinformation.

The last TSA pilot to interview at CAl....HIRED.

The handful, or should I say ONE or TWO who got hired at the above airlines, have slipped through the cracks. Good luck with your efforts to hide you shame.

You are the scourge of the industry.

Please specify what statement is a lie. It is all true.
I made no mention of your last pilot to be hired by CAL. It was our last pilot.
My information is all factual.

When your B.S. is exposed, you dismiss it as "slipping through the cracks". How many people look at a pilot's resume and review their background to get hired? Ten? Twenty? More? "Slipped through the cracks"...Right...

Every prediction you've made has been dead wrong. Anyone who strives so hard to hurt others are truly demented. As I said: State your opinions in your next major airline interview and see where it gets you. Or tell it to the Psychologist during your FFDO Psych Eval. You will be eliminated so fast your head will spin.

Anybody who targets another individual, regardless of whose side you are on, needs real help.

FF

 

[phishn@daves]

Please specify what statement is a lie. It is all true.
I made no mention of your last pilot to be hired by CAL. It was our last pilot.
My information is all factual.

When your B.S. is exposed, you dismiss it as "slipping through the cracks". How many people look at a pilot's resume and review their background to get hired? Ten? Twenty? More? "Slipped through the cracks"...Right...

Every prediction you've made has been dead wrong. Anyone who strives so hard to hurt others are truly demented. As I said: State your opinions in your next major airline interview and see where it gets you. Or tell it to the Psychologist during your FFDO Psych Eval. You will be eliminated so fast your head will spin.

Anybody who targets another individual, regardless of whose side you are on, needs real help.

FF

Hey FuelFlow,

Your Avatar was the only guy I've ever hated from Star Wars who was on our side.

"Stay on target"...........and don't try to screw your fellow pilots. Who's side are you on?

 

[oceandude]

they will never get it! Good for your fuelflow!

 

[Airtran717]

JetBlue I don't think so

For the last time.....None at Airtran either! There are about 20 of us who check the list every week. If any appear, the phone tree will start. I love how you guys make up this crap. You have told yourself lies so many times you are starting to believe them yourself.

 

[tomcash]

"FuelFlow" and other GoJet faithfuls:

What part of the point (these pilots are making) do you not understand?

The employer you sacrifice the majority of your week for has directly contributed to the degradation of the career as an airline pilot.

It has not helped anyone, even the folks you mention that may have been hired at Continental (I would guess the majority in the training department/ hiring department there were hired in the early to mid 1980s anyway) have hurt themselves in the long run.

It seems as though your peers (and you) unfortunately do not see the forest through the trees. You as a pilot are labor. You have sold yourself and the careers of countless other pilots short...

GoJet's sole purpose of creation was to defeat ALL pilots (including those that have accepted positions at this company).

End of story.

Good night

 

[redbook]

When your B.S. is exposed, you dismiss it as "slipping through the cracks". How many people look at a pilot's resume and review their background to get hired? Ten? Twenty? More? "Slipped through the cracks"...Right...


FF

Trust me people are redoubling their efforts to prevent even the one or two gojet pilots from getting on...you guys are sneaky bastards who will hide your gojet careers to the best of your abilities. I guess everyone in the industry is screwed up and the gojet alter ego piece of garbage pilots are the upstanding citizens right? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Every action has a reaction and you have reaped your just reward.

 

[fuelflow]

For the last time.....None at Airtran either! There are about 20 of us who check the list every week. If any appear, the phone tree will start. I love how you guys make up this crap. You have told yourself lies so many times you are starting to believe them yourself.

Your list has what, maybe 30 names on it? Out of 150 pilots? You may want to double check. Go to your HR department, while on probation, and tell them there must be some mistake, and you need these guys canned because they came from GoJet. Good luck.

 

[Turkey Shoot]

Your list has what, maybe 30 names on it? Out of 150 pilots? You may want to double check. Go to your HR department, while on probation, and tell them there must be some mistake, and you need these guys canned because they came from GoJet. Good luck.

Does this trouble you that there are people out there are angry about what your lack of character? Fact is there are lots of Waterski guys out there and they just may very well prevent you guys from being able to move on. How does it feel to have a bullseye on you when you thing about career progression? Glad I don't have one.

 

[Airtran717]

Your list has what, maybe 30 names on it? Out of 150 pilots? You may want to double check. Go to your HR department, while on probation, and tell them there must be some mistake, and you need these guys canned because they came from GoJet. Good luck.

Im not talking about that stupid "scab" list of names from the website of GoJet pilots. or that people PM or post around here. We dont need one because the list that is posted in our training center and crew lounge tells the persons name, WHAT AIRLINE THEY ARE APPLYING FROM, and who recommended them it looks like this..

PILOT.................AIRLINE.....................RECOMMENDING PILOT
Joe Blow ........... Air Wisconsin ............ Joes Friend 1, Joe's Friend 2
John Dough ....... ExpressJet ................ Johns Friend 1

.... and as far as I know Jetblue and Southwest's list look the same by the way.

Oh and im not on probation, and even if I was I wouldnt have a problem sending the message to the recruiting department, about you. None of us would. Probation here and at Trans States are not the same thing. I wouldn't get fired for denying you the jumpseat or speaking bad about GoJet (That only happens at Trans States). Besides they post it in the training center for those that are in "training" to comment as well, and guess what.... that would be mostly NEW HIRES. They actually care what we all think. Imagine that! This is the real world, and these are real world people that you screwed over.

 

[fuelflow]

Im not talking about that stupid "scab" list of names from the website of GoJet pilots. or that people PM or post around here. We dont need one because the list that is posted in our training center and crew lounge tells the persons name, WHAT AIRLINE THEY ARE APPLYING FROM, and who recommended them it looks like this..

PILOT.................AIRLINE.....................RECOMMENDING PILOT
Joe Blow ........... Air Wisconsin ............ Joes Friend 1, Joe's Friend 2
John Dough ....... ExpressJet ................ Johns Friend 1

.... and as far as I know Jetblue and Southwest's list look the same by the way.

Oh and im not on probation, and even if I was I wouldnt have a problem sending the message to the recruiting department, about you. None of us would. Probation here and at Trans States are not the same thing. I wouldn't get fired for denying you the jumpseat or speaking bad about GoJet (That only happens at Trans States). Besides they post it in the training center for those that are in "training" to comment as well, and guess what.... that would be mostly NEW HIRES. They actually care what we all think. Imagine that! This is the real world, and these are real world people that you screwed over.

Well, you missed a few then. The guys that went there were former TWA/AA, and I'm sure their recommendations were very credible.

Good luck with the "war".