go Jet clowns

[h25b]

Seriously, doubt that any of these stories are true.

Just look at who are writing these stories:

it is the same screen names over and over.

Good luck to all in this "career"; at some point you will all figure it out.

And for all who attack me on this message that is all right, it is your right, but I do not stand for spreading hate, harassment, fear and untruths just to meet some personal agenda. Somehow these people feel they have been wronged and feel justified in their methods. But you have to look at their actions and how there are trying to accomplish "their" goals. They should be using proper and legal means to correct any areas that they feel they have been unjustly treated.

Honestly, ask yourself; Who wants to be part of an industry, company, union or associated with any person that feels they have the right to actively spread hate? It sounds very fascist to me, and you know where that leads. History will tell you and is a good teacher.

Support America-Everyone; otherwise the "dream" is dead.

The crew van stories are my favorite....

 

[tomcash]

How many classless rejects are employed at *************************S as pilots now?

Is it true that only people who could not obtain employment elsewhere are the only ones flying at *************************S?

 

[h25b]

Is it true that only people who could not obtain employment elsewhere are the only ones flying at *************************S?

Probably about as true as all of the crew van assaults and other threats...

Internet toughguys are abundant on Flightinfo.com ...

 

[elcapitan]

How many classless rejects are employed at *************************S as pilots now?

Is it true that only people who could not obtain employment elsewhere are the only ones flying at *************************S?

From what I heard there are many furloughees from other airlines including major airlines.

I doubt that with the plethora of "good" jobs out there are many choices to work these days. So you statement is not true.

Support "America"..

 

[tomcash]

From what I heard there are many furloughees from other airlines including major airlines.

Support "America"..

Wow! Real pilots from real major airlines now work at *************************S?

Wow! It must be a good comapny then!

 

[tomcash]

Did I say something I should not have?

If anyone here is employed at *************************S, please describe how it feels to be a part of a company whose name is considered an explitive.

 

[flyer172r]

The crew van stories are my favorite....

Did you ever for one second consider that these stories might just be true? I was in Jacksonville last week and the van driver told us flat out that GJ is often on the same shuttle as TSA. I don't think he has a reason to lie about that. If you want people to "grow up" and stop badmouthing GJ all the time, it might help to stop constantly calling them liars.

 

[h25b]

Did you ever for one second consider that these stories might just be true?

Actually no... I have not.

I have no doubt that there's probably some shared crew vans, it's the verbal confrontations and threats of physical violence I highly doubt.

 

[rtmcfi]

From what I heard there are many furloughees from other airlines including major airlines.

I doubt that with the plethora of "good" jobs out there are many choices to work these days. So you statement is not true.

Support "America"..

There are better jobs available right now. Ones that don't involve stabbing your brothers in the back. The selfish swine that go to hojets deserve all the flak they catch, and then some. They made a selfish decision, and now they get to enjoy reaping what they have sown. I find it humorous/pathetic, when those that chose to lay down with the dogs try to whitewash their mistake.

No matter how furiously you scrub, no matter what kind of flowery soap you use, all of you hojets rubbish are tainted with a stink that will never wash away. It may fade a bit with time, but it will always be there. You will smell it every time you walk by a crew from another airline, and cast your eyes downward in shame. Every time you attempt to hide that ID, the stench will fill your nose. When you walk up to the cockpit to ask for a jump seat, you will smell it. Rightfully so.............

 

[elcapitan]

Did you ever for one second consider that these stories might just be true? I was in Jacksonville last week and the van driver told us flat out that GJ is often on the same shuttle as TSA. I don't think he has a reason to lie about that. If you want people to "grow up" and stop badmouthing GJ all the time, it might help to stop constantly calling them liars.

I thought you relating a first hand account... not one that you heard from someone that you heard from.....who heard from...

Nobody called them liars. What I said is that is doesn't do anyone good to keep spreading the "hatred" because somebody didn't get what they wanted. There are other ways.

 

[100LL... Again!]

Hmmm - if I was a GJ pilot I'd probably invite one of you fools to take a swing at me. That would be all I needed to finish of your career. Punching another pilot right there on the way to the airport. I think the FAA medical branch would have some serious doubts about your fitness for a first class medical after that.

Big talkers are big babies. You'd do nothing but spout off at the mouth and give dirty looks, and you know it.

 

[elcapitan]

There are better jobs available right now. Ones that don't involve stabbing your brothers in the back. The selfish swine that go to hojets deserve all the flak they catch, and then some. They made a selfish decision, and now they get to enjoy reaping what they have sown. I find it humorous/pathetic, when those that chose to lay down with the dogs try to whitewash their mistake.

No matter how furiously you scrub, no matter what kind of flowery soap you use, all of you hojets rubbish are tainted with a stink that will never wash away. It may fade a bit with time, but it will always be there. You will smell it every time you walk by a crew from another airline, and cast your eyes downward in shame. Every time you attempt to hide that ID, the stench will fill your nose. When you walk up to the cockpit to ask for a jump seat, you will smell it. Rightfully so.............

What makes your so self-righteous?

Why does the whole world have to stand up for "something" that "you" think is "right"?

What is the truth to this situation?

All I see is some people promoting hate, fear, harassment.

Again, who wants to be party to that. I ask you that.

Where are these other "good" jobs that you are talking about?

If there are so many "good" jobs, why don't you get one yourself and get out of the situation you are in?

Have you ever asked one of the pilots why they took the job?

Calling people "scum" and "selfish" doesn't do the situation any good.

How many opportunities did the TSA "union" have to change the situation?

Have you ever looked at that?

 

[rtmcfi]

What makes your so self-righteous?

I am not self righteous, just self respecting. I respect the sacrifices of those that came before me, and the sacrifices of my peers. I feel nothing but contempt for those that undue others hard work. I feel contempt for those that are undercutting you, unless you are hojets trash, or an A lister.

Why does the whole world have to stand up for "something" that "you" think is "right"?

I never said you have to. However, It would be nice to have some solidarity. Feel free to sit on the sidelines passively and watch whats left of this career run aground. Hopefully there will be enough people that have a pair and actively do what little they can to stop this cancer.

What is the truth to this situation?

Like any situation there are many truths. One undeniable truth, is that hojets is hurting every pilot involved in this industry. While they are blind to it, the hojets pilots are hurting themselves as well.

All I see is some people promoting hate, fear, harassment.

Hojets pilots made their bed. They can sleep uncomfortably in it. I choose not to hug them and accept them.

Again, who wants to be party to that. I ask you that.

If the ends justify the means............

Where are these other "good" jobs that you are talking about?

Of the top of my head, Air Wisconsin. A reputable carrier with good people that worked hard to improve their, and through association, all other regional pilots lot in life. They were undercut, and had their lives uprooted due in no small part to the thankless pukes at hojets. At the time hojets was hatching, there were other airlines hiring as well. ASA, SkyWest, COEX, Horizon, I'm sure there were others......

If there are so many "good" jobs, why
don't you get one yourself and get out of the situation you are in?

Love it or leave it huh? I suppose I should be embracing and accepting those that damage the career I have chosen.

Have you ever asked one of the pilots why they took the job?

There is not a good enough reason they could possibly provide, short of a gun being held to their head.

Calling people "scum" and "selfish" doesn't do the situation any good.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck........

How many opportunities did the TSA "union" have to change the situation?

I'm not sure, as I don't work there, and was not privy to all that transpired. What I do know, is this: if HK couldn't staff his new low-ball, scumbag outfit, he would have been forced to deal with those at TSA that are attempting to improve the lives of regional pilots.

 

[BlackPilot628]

I don't have time to worry about g0jetz for the next few years. Everyone on the board is preaching about being bottom feeders. We're all bottom feeders if you're at a regional. Some companies more than others, but we're all in the mix. It just not worth me hating, punching, or even getting into meaningless arguments about g0jetz. That is fixing nothing. Life to short guys, make what you want of it.

 

[fuelflow]

Didn't the TSA's union extend a substandard pilot contract to capture United Express flying from ACA? Aren't those guys all out of work now because they were underbid by both TSA and AWAC? And since when did boycotting pilot employment, except during a strike, ever work? Especially in STL which is chock full of able qualified ex-TWA/AA pilots who themselves have been hosed by ALPA and see TSA flying their old routes...ironically in AMR owned aircraft. Perhaps that is why there are so many ex- TWA/AA, Eagle, and ACA pilots at GJ.

You know the saying about those in glass houses..

 

[A350]

How did the G0Jets pilots screw the AWAC guys? UAL put the flying out for bid and Mesa got the nod......U picked up AWAC and sent Mesa packing. It is all about lowering the high cost of producing regional flying. This continues today and will continue until something changes.

A350

 

[goahead]

im gonna get a job at gj just to kick your ass... You mess with the wrong dude one day and its not going to be good.

Yea dream on ya JUNKIE, you couldn't even kick a FA's ass...... Go ahead and get a job at Gj and see where you end up...... "it's not going to be good". I'd love to meet you...DUDE.......

ASA supports TSA, my two cents

 

[tomcash]

Flightinfo's management must REALLY hate *************************s, the name is edited like it is an explitive spoken from the mouth of a Jerry Springer guest!

If anyone on here actually works for *************************s, please describe how it feels to be a part of this company.

Is it true about hiding your credentials from other airline employees?

How do you feel that the company for which you go to work 20 days per month is a prohibited word on Flightinfo.com?

How does it feel being looked down upon by virtually your every peer in the airline industry?

Do you wish you never accepted employment at this company, but feel it is past the point of no return?

I would like serious answers from people that actually work at this company, if anyone is willing to admit it.

Thanks

 

[tomcash]

OK, done

 

[TSA Pilot]

How many opportunities did the TSA "union" have to change the situation?

We rose to every opportunity! We refused to continue letting the regional industry go into the crapper by voting down a crappy 4 YEAR extension to merge G0jets into our seniority list and furlough protect all you f%^$heads! We stood our ground. The truth is, we could of taken g0jets then or we could take it during our contract negotiations (starting soon) with a few other improvements, we chose the second.

Didn't the TSA's union extend a substandard pilot contract to capture United Express flying from ACA?

uhhh, noo. we accepted it to prevent the company from asking for concessions like every other regional were getting at the time. Yet they still make more than us and have better work rules... but thats not enough for Hulas, you will soon learn. He will drag out your negotiations for years. He has you right where he wants you and hes not gonna change it. You did it to yourselves.

Also, as far as "having many furloughed TWA guys", I'm a member of the TWA message board (and my father was TWA) and there is only one that I know about that went over there and he is trying like hell to get out. He has posted about how much it sucks over there. So live in your misguided little world, and try to give off the illusion that "there are many furloughed mainline pilots taking the g0jet plunge.." Its just not true.