Go-Jet Certification Delayed - Go-Jet & Feds Argue Over Secrecy

[TSA Pilot]

The following was posted on TSALOUNGE but is PUBLIC RECORD. Looks like they dont want Trans States Pilots (or Go-Jet pilots for that matter to know how much they are going to be making off of all their hard work...

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Go-Jet’s certification is currently being delayed while the DOT and Go-Jet argue over whether financial and ownership information should be accessible to the public.

DOT denied Go-Jet’s request to keep secret the income statements and balance sheets for TSA and TSA Holdings as well as the ultimate ownership structure of the company. Go-Jet is appealing (for the 3rd time). Go-Jet argues that it shouldn’t have to submit the same information as Republic did since it is a private company and not planning to sell stock.

Go-Jet says that the required disclosure of its financial structure would disadvantage sister subsidiary Trans States Airlines in its relations and contract negotiations with organized labor.

DOT did allow confidential treatment of the Bombardier contract and the United contract, although a summary of Go-Jet’s aircraft lease agreements is being disallowed confidential treatment.

Looks like a bit of fussing back and forth between the company and the government in which DOT criticizes Go-Jet for not supplying enough verifiable information about its finances, operating plans, and fitness to run the airline. Go-Jet complains that its first aircraft sits on the ramp while the application is caught up in red tape and shifting rules.

Go-Jet will be capitalized with $15 million cash from TSA Holdings, consisting of $5 million equity investment and $10 million loan. Trans States Holdings owns 100% of Trans States Airlines and 100% of Go-Jet LLC. TSAH is owned 60% by a Hulas Kanodia trust (although the filings are contradictory as to whether the trust is revocable or irrevocable) and 40% by various trusts for the benefit of Kanodia’s 3 children.

This is a rough summary of a lot of information in the DOT’s public record. You can access the docket yourself at dms.dot.gov and do a simple search then click to read the various documents. Go-Jet’s case is filed under docket #19877.

http://dms.dot.gov/search/searchResultsSimple.cfm?numberValue=19877&searchType=docket

Airline certification is a two-headed snake – 2 different processes. DOT looks at financial and managerial “fitness.” Then, FAA has an entirely separate process which looks at the technical aspects of flight operations, training, manuals, maintenance, etc. Go-Jet is still stuck in the DOT certification process. I don’t know where they stand on the FAA’s process, whether it has begun or even can begin until DOT grants its approval.

 

[jjetpilot]

Sweet thanks

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

You've gotta love "public information"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PtP


They are all a bunch "swine Fing Dirt Bags @ **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**!

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

Why was the word "**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**" censored!?

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

**censored****censored****censored****censored****censored**

 

[Palmtree Pilot]

Gooooooooo......................


J




Jet!

 

[J32driver]

B-L-O-W JETS!!!!

 

[jsmenkin]

B-L-O-W JETS!!!!

It is extremely unfortunate and deeply saddening to hear such rhetoric from those such as yourself who with your "industry experience" proclaim professionalism in the face of adversity, when, in reality, your sanctimonious self-rightousness shines through your reptilian personna even more brightly now than ever before. The warm fuzzy feeling has left me, and you can certainly count on my anti-sympathetic sentiment as you will undoubtedly respond with additional lude and crass remarks in the name of the well educated. I stand firm. And I can also say that I understand an opportunity of profound magnitude rises on the horizon, and instead of adapting to a new industry atmosphere taking shape that will increase coveted and lucrative positions for the many individuals who do understand, you have to the dismay of many decided to refrain from the proper research and fall amid the misinformed to doubt any successful movement into this new era. I sincerely hope the "Harvard boy" inside you wakes up before the inevitable time arrives that you find yourself wanting, lying naked in state, mumbling the only intelligeble word that comes to you....mama. I will give you one thing, you have truly created a medium for great entertainment. Keep up the great work!

 

[Wacko]

What?

 

[flyer172r]

IAnd I can also say that I understand an opportunity of profound magnitude rises on the horizon, and instead of adapting to a new industry atmosphere taking shape that will increase coveted and lucrative positions for the many individuals who do understand

Umm, have you seen the GoJets pay scales? Do you know something we don't? If not, why don't we wait and see what they're like before deciding if it's "lucrative," a word that should probably never be used to describe a regional payscale.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

It is extremely unfortunate and deeply saddening to hear such rhetoric from those such as yourself who with your "industry experience" proclaim professionalism in the face of adversity, when, in reality, your sanctimonious self-rightousness shines through your reptilian personna even more brightly now than ever before. The warm fuzzy feeling has left me, and you can certainly count on my anti-sympathetic sentiment as you will undoubtedly respond with additional lude and crass remarks in the name of the well educated. I stand firm. And I can also say that I understand an opportunity of profound magnitude rises on the horizon, and instead of adapting to a new industry atmosphere taking shape that will increase coveted and lucrative positions for the many individuals who do understand, you have to the dismay of many decided to refrain from the proper research and fall amid the misinformed to doubt any successful movement into this new era. I sincerely hope the "Harvard boy" inside you wakes up before the inevitable time arrives that you find yourself wanting, lying naked in state, mumbling the only intelligeble word that comes to you....mama. I will give you one thing, you have truly created a medium for great entertainment. Keep up the great work!

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.

 

[regionaltard]

lude

Thanks for providing a context for your incoherent babbling.........

Kanoidia

I think they make an ointment that'll clear those right up.

 

[front9]

Originally Posted by jsmenkin
It is extremely unfortunate and deeply saddening to hear such rhetoric from those such as yourself who with your "industry experience" proclaim professionalism in the face of adversity, when, in reality, your sanctimonious self-rightousness shines through your reptilian personna even more brightly now than ever before. The warm fuzzy feeling has left me, and you can certainly count on my anti-sympathetic sentiment as you will undoubtedly respond with additional lude and crass remarks in the name of the well educated. I stand firm. And I can also say that I understand an opportunity of profound magnitude rises on the horizon, and instead of adapting to a new industry atmosphere taking shape that will increase coveted and lucrative positions for the many individuals who do understand, you have to the dismay of many decided to refrain from the proper research and fall amid the misinformed to doubt any successful movement into this new era. I sincerely hope the "Harvard boy" inside you wakes up before the inevitable time arrives that you find yourself wanting, lying naked in state, mumbling the only intelligeble word that comes to you....mama. I will give you one thing, you have truly created a medium for great entertainment. Keep up the great work!

The edumacation of the propagation, going into litigation, hereby decrees that the proportium of facts and figures, including the Mississippi doctrine, whereby each and every pilot or pilots of the aerocraft henceforth this day provides the responsibilitorium of the safety and security of ones employment. Whereas, the managementification of the board, and subsequent shareholders, adds additional environmental and analytical concerns to the equation produced by the author of the foremost correspondence thereby solidifying his/her original post.

 

[PCL_128]

It is extremely unfortunate and deeply saddening to hear such rhetoric from those such as yourself who with your "industry experience" proclaim professionalism in the face of adversity, when, in reality, your sanctimonious self-rightousness shines through your reptilian personna even more brightly now than ever before. The warm fuzzy feeling has left me, and you can certainly count on my anti-sympathetic sentiment as you will undoubtedly respond with additional lude and crass remarks in the name of the well educated. I stand firm. And I can also say that I understand an opportunity of profound magnitude rises on the horizon, and instead of adapting to a new industry atmosphere taking shape that will increase coveted and lucrative positions for the many individuals who do understand, you have to the dismay of many decided to refrain from the proper research and fall amid the misinformed to doubt any successful movement into this new era. I sincerely hope the "Harvard boy" inside you wakes up before the inevitable time arrives that you find yourself wanting, lying naked in state, mumbling the only intelligeble word that comes to you....mama. I will give you one thing, you have truly created a medium for great entertainment. Keep up the great work!

You know, simply stringing together a bunch of random three-syllable words doesn't make you look smart. What you write has to actually make some kind of sense.

 

[210FR8DOG]

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Your my new HERO, stinkin' menkin!!!!! you f'n rule!!! not sure what all you said, but you do rule!!!!!

 

[DashCojones]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.

A simple "wrong" would've been enough, but ok....

 

[SkyBoy1981]

A simple "wrong" would've been enough, but ok....

That is my favorite movie of all time.

 

[Brett Hull]

And you left out the "I award you no points".

 

[cocknbull]

It is extremely unfortunate and deeply saddening to hear such rhetoric from those such as yourself who with your "industry experience" proclaim professionalism in the face of adversity, when, in reality, your sanctimonious self-rightousness shines through your reptilian personna even more brightly now than ever before. The warm fuzzy feeling has left me, and you can certainly count on my anti-sympathetic sentiment as you will undoubtedly respond with additional lude and crass remarks in the name of the well educated. I stand firm. And I can also say that I understand an opportunity of profound magnitude rises on the horizon, and instead of adapting to a new industry atmosphere taking shape that will increase coveted and lucrative positions for the many individuals who do understand, you have to the dismay of many decided to refrain from the proper research and fall amid the misinformed to doubt any successful movement into this new era. I sincerely hope the "Harvard boy" inside you wakes up before the inevitable time arrives that you find yourself wanting, lying naked in state, mumbling the only intelligeble word that comes to you....mama. I will give you one thing, you have truly created a medium for great entertainment. Keep up the great work!

1. self-rightousness is self-righteousness
2. personna is persona
3. lude is lewd
4. This whole sentance needs to be restructured "The warm fuzzy feeling has left me, and you can certainly count on my anti-sympathetic sentiment as you will undoubtedly respond with additional lewd and crass remarks in the name of the well educated."
5. You need a ";" after "I will give you one thing instead of a ","
6. intelligeble is intelligible

You jsmenkin are the weak-minded one who has allowed management propaganda to corrupt your myopic weak mind.

From the Scab list description of a Scab

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SCAB takes your job, a Job he could not get under normal circumstances. He can only advance himself by taking advantage of labor disputes and walking over the backs of workers trying to maintain decent wages and working conditions. He helps management to destroy his and your profession, often ending up under conditions he/she wouldn't even have scabbed for. No matter. A SCAB doesn't think long term, nor does he think of anything other then himself. His smile shows fangs that drip with your blood, for he willingly destroys families, lives, careers, opportunities and professions at the drop of a hat. He takes from a striker what he knows he could never earn by his own merit: a decent Job. He steals that which others earned at the bargaining table through blood, sweat and tears, and throws it away in an instant -ruining lives, jobs and careers."

This description matches Gojets pilots to a tea. They are indeed scabs and will be treated as parasites scum. When the dust settles you will find out that you are no more than a tool to be tossed aside by your management friends.​

 

[KingKong2]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.

Shampoo is better it goes on 1st and cleans the hair.....