Go Jet Airlines, a reasonable option or a way to the blacklist?

[PBRstreetgang]

Go hit the bar drunk.

I would rather hit you with a 2 x 4. You are the worst, a WANNABE!
Chiteater!
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

B come to GJ Ill have my app in January 13th and I know I wont get hired but maybe. Im telling you its worth it you will love Chicago and we can always split a place its better than living with the parents. Who gives a ******************** if these DBAGS will be pissed they dont pay your bills.

Sounds like a HOMOEROTIC fantasy for 2 pathetic losers like yourselves.
PBR

 

[Flyer1015]

Blablabla I'm sorry, the same standard TSA ramble. Another TSA guy who thinks he did his pilot group a favor when in fact TSA is in the ********************ter with more furloughs and downzing to come. By the way as a pilot affected by the NO decision, which even alpa was against, I'd like to personally thank you.

The fact is that Hulas said he didn't have the cash necessary to give you guys 40k for FOs and 80k for CAs because of the cost associated with starting GJ. His idea was to integrate the CRJ and promise the TSA group a pay raise and contract negotiations in exchange for cooperating. TSA guys fueled by their mec, I think mostly because they HATED their management already with clouded judgement, told Hulas to go ******************** himself. Well after several attempts, even after GJ was formed, Hulas gave up and started ops. As promised to TSA, GJ pilots were allowed a union contract and higher pay. You can't get much if you hate your management, now TSA is ********************ed and guys can't let it go.

"Promises" in exchange for cooperation?! Management promises aren't worth SH*T unless it is something written in your contract, and EVEN THEN, they will try and get around it.

Your reasoning attempt for excusing GoJets is pathetic! And YES, Hulas had cash to give 40k to FOs and 80ks to CA. But like any management's wet dream, he would rather form an alter-ego carrier, and hire pilots for that operation. Lets be honest that your typical pilot mill factory pilot has no idea what GoJets is or why it's bad. They're just happy to land their first jet job on a plane with more than one flight attendant. GoJet guys are scum, I'm sorry to say it, but it's true. Do you know how awkward van conversations are everytime you ride with a Gojets crew? I kid you not, I've actually SEEN some GoJets pilot turn their badges around just to hide the name. One guy came to our gate to see if could jumpseat and told me he flew for United Express.

When GoJets pilots stoop to that level, then surely even you must acknowledge that what your carrier did was wrong, and you were bad for taking jobs there to begin with.

GoJets sucks.

 

[ALIMBO]

Actually it's "I could NOT care less."

BTW, airline interview people do pay attention to how you talk, in case you think we're having a useless conversation about how dumb you sound.

I didn't know this became an interview. Thanks for the update tho.

 

[ALIMBO]

I would rather hit you with a 2 x 4. You are the worst, a WANNABE!
Chiteater!
PBR

Ur drunk ass would miss by a mile.

 

[CX880]

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Your reasoning attempt for excusing GoJets is pathetic! And YES, Hulas had cash to give 40k to FOs and 80ks to CA. But like any management's wet dream, he would rather form an alter-ego carrier, and hire pilots for that operation. Lets be honest that your typical pilot mill factory pilot has no idea what GoJets is or why it's bad. They're just happy to land their first jet job on a plane with more than one flight attendant. GoJet guys are scum, I'm sorry to say it, but it's true.

What the ******************** are you talking about we make more than you do. As far as those pay rates, you'll never see them, why do you think regional pilots make the same now if not less than 20 years ago? Blowjets????? Please don't come up with dumbass reasoning, it's getting very old.

Do you know how awkward van conversations are everytime you ride with a Gojets crew? I kid you not, I've actually SEEN some GoJets pilot turn their badges around just to hide the name. One guy came to our gate to see if could jumpseat and told me he flew for United Express.

This is total BS, maybe in 05 they had to resort to that kind of stuff, you're still stuck in 05. As far as the Van ride, it's not our fault if you have personal issues. When I was non GJ, we struck up great conversations, some of the nicest guys.

When GoJets pilots stoop to that level, then surely even you must acknowledge that what your carrier did was wrong, and you were bad for taking jobs there to begin with.

I have no idea what you're talking about. As long as it's not struck work, it's just flying. You won't let it go. GJ was chosen by united for CRJ7 flying, what the F is wrong with that? I mean regional airlines take flying from other regionals all the time, just about every other regional out there has taken other's flying. It's not their flying, it's mainline flying.

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[flyboyzii]

My Dad can beat up your Dad..Now back to the sandbox

 

[CX880]

Pilots DID lose their job as a direct result of GOJET. I was one of them.

Please explain how you lost your job at TSA as a result of Gojet.

 

[Rook]

Has anyone mentioned the suck-fest that is Mesa lately?

 

[CX880]

Has anyone mentioned the suck-fest that is Mesa lately?

Not lately it's been real quiet.

 

[ALIMBO]

Has anyone mentioned the suck-fest that is Mesa lately?

I just got hired at Mesa you shut your mouth.

 

[Ezralite]

I just got hired at Mesa you shut your mouth.

But you do know they suck, right?

 

[great cornholio]

Mesa Sucks

A few pages back...so apparently he does know they suck.

 

[ALIMBO]

I was kidding I probably would instruct over going there unless the CFI job I got lined up goes under.

 

[Flyer1015]

What the ******************** are you talking about we make more than you do. As far as those pay rates, you'll never see them, why do you think regional pilots make the same now if not less than 20 years ago? Blowjets????? Please don't come up with dumbass reasoning, it's getting very old.

I hate to break to you, but our 76-seat rates are higher than yours. Regional pay rates suck today, but they were even MORE horrible in the 90s.

This is total BS, maybe in 05 they had to resort to that kind of stuff, you're still stuck in 05. As far as the Van ride, it's not our fault if you have personal issues. When I was non GJ, we struck up great conversations, some of the nicest guys.

I haven't forgotten. Everone still remembers. That's why you still get jumpseats denied to GoJet crewmembers. And I have never struck up a great conversation with a GoJet pilot. In the van, once we ask what airline they fly for, they say GoJets and sink back into their seat.

I have no idea what you're talking about. As long as it's not struck work, it's just flying. You won't let it go. GJ was chosen by united for CRJ7 flying, what the F is wrong with that? I mean regional airlines take flying from other regionals all the time, just about every other regional out there has taken other's flying. It's not their flying, it's mainline flying.

You STILL don't get it. YOU work for an ALTER-EGO carrier. A carrier started SPECIFICALLY for the reason to UNDER-MINE an existing ALPA carrier. There is a HUGE difference between this, and another regional taking another regionals flying. YOUR GoJets was formed specifically as an alter-ego, from the SAME holding company of TSA, and yet, backstabbing TSA pilots to "teach" them a lesson. Then YOUR carrier continued to grow and hire, NON-UNION, while TSA (the ALPA) carrier SUFFERED from loss of flying and from LAYOFFs. All as a result of TSA's upper management undermining UNION pilots and forming an alter-ego NON-UNION carrier. So YOUR actions have BACK-STABBED every ALPA carrier/pilot and what they stand for.

You're scum. True, you're not flying struck work, so you're technically not a scab. But you are the next worst thing above a scab. You will never be welcome in my jumpseat.

 

[nwa_contrails]

Well said.

 

[Rook]

A few pages back...so apparently he does know they suck.

Thought so...Thanks gc.

 

[Turtlesfly]

You STILL don't get it. YOU work for an ALTER-EGO carrier. A carrier started SPECIFICALLY for the reason to UNDER-MINE an existing ALPA carrier. There is a HUGE difference between this, and another regional taking another regionals flying. YOUR GoJets was formed specifically as an alter-ego, from the SAME holding company of TSA, and yet, backstabbing TSA pilots to "teach" them a lesson. Then YOUR carrier continued to grow and hire, NON-UNION, while TSA (the ALPA) carrier SUFFERED from loss of flying and from LAYOFFs. All as a result of TSA's upper management undermining UNION pilots and forming an alter-ego NON-UNION carrier. So YOUR actions have BACK-STABBED every ALPA carrier/pilot and what they stand for.

You're scum. True, you're not flying struck work, so you're technically not a scab. But you are the next worst thing above a scab. You will never be welcome in my jumpseat.

God, I thought for a while there I was the only one who believed this. Thanks for the refresher

 

[Salukipilot4590]

You STILL don't get it. YOU work for an ALTER-EGO carrier. A carrier started SPECIFICALLY for the reason to UNDER-MINE an existing ALPA carrier. There is a HUGE difference between this, and another regional taking another regionals flying. YOUR GoJets was formed specifically as an alter-ego, from the SAME holding company of TSA, and yet, backstabbing TSA pilots to "teach" them a lesson. Then YOUR carrier continued to grow and hire, NON-UNION, while TSA (the ALPA) carrier SUFFERED from loss of flying and from LAYOFFs. All as a result of TSA's upper management undermining UNION pilots and forming an alter-ego NON-UNION carrier. So YOUR actions have BACK-STABBED every ALPA carrier/pilot and what they stand for.

You're scum. True, you're not flying struck work, so you're technically not a scab. But you are the next worst thing above a scab. You will never be welcome in my jumpseat.

You have just become my hero...

 

[3blade]

Look, I don't have a dog in this fight. But as an outside observer, I see this whole argument as bullsh*t.

Do I have a choice to rely on court cases? It's called following the law. If ALPA and TSA pilot group believed it was grossly wrong, why is there no appeal? Why isn't there another lawsuit?

Like I said, if ALPA says people shouldn't go to GoJet and issue a recruitment ban, you'll have a point.

But as it stands now, sorry, this is all emotional ranting without any real substance. By the same logic, people should forego ever applying to American Airlines after what they did to TWA, or to Continental Airlines because "they are full of scabs" or Airtran because it was "founded by scabs" or Delta "because how they treated Pan Am pilots"...

See what I'm getting at?

Leave the emotional drama out of it. The courts have ruled. You have 2 choices... 1) appeal the decisions and force ALPA to do what you believe is right.... or 2) live with the courts decisions..

Am I the only one to read Freight Dog's post?.......end of argument. The reason this ridiculous thread has went on as long as it has is because an equal or greater amount of people disagree with the crybabies calling these GoJet crews backstabber, scabs, blah blah whatever, get over it.

Nobody should be denied a ride to work/home for a stupid reason as this, your only hurting your own cause, if you don't like it, appeal it, take some real action instead of bellyaching to the no-name trolls on FlightInfo.