Getting the Truth out about Mesa

[rickair7777]

I hear that Netjets REFUSES to allow any of its employees (including pilots repositioning to various aircraft) to fly Mesa because of its cost-cutting and "unsafe" reputation. I wonder if that impacts a Mesa pilot's ability to work for an outfit like Netjets? You never know.

I seriously doubt netjets is worried about their safety...they probably got burned one too many times by no-shows pilots due to CANX/delayed mesa flights.

I've never of any employer who would generally hold mesa employment against a pilot if he was otherwise qualified...although there are a lot of people at mesa who couldn't get a job anywhere else.

 

[dirkdigler]

All about the bottom line....

Let me ask you airline guys a question:

I fully understand that there will be people who don't show up for flights or people who don't make connections leaving empy seats on aircraft, but what in the hell is up with oversold flights at outstations?

I was booked on a flight out of Redmond, Oregon on Horizon on the Sunday after Thanksgiving. I showed up to learn that I was not on the flight because they were oversold and that the next flight out wasn't until the next day.

I had a contract with FedEx Ground to run a P and D route the next day. If I didn't get back to PHX and to work before Monday morning at 0600, I would loose my contract and the $42K that I paid for it.

I could not freaking believe that Horizon/Alaska had oversold a Dash out of Redmond on that particular day. I could understand overselling a flight from PHX-LA or the like wherein I could be bumped to another flight later in the day, but I don't understand how they could justify stranding me in central Oregon by overselling a 34-seat Dash on Thanksgiving weekend.

In the end, a husband/wife couple couldn't board because the husband has lost his wallet and they needed to find it....but by the grace of God was I not financially destroyed AND out of work.

Who makes the decision on how much to oversell a flight and how do they do it? I can easily see this someday soon becoming a national issue that will cause congress to move as quickly as they did to pass the "no call list" if overselling continues to be an issue.

Airline takes use statistical data, among other things in their marketing decisions. And no-show numbers are one of the statistical data that they keep track of.

 

[Tug Driver]

rule 120.20 would only work if the airline was to print off the paper tickets. good luck trying to get them to do that.

am i right to assume that the major carrier is responsible for all reservations? pax's cannot directly book reservations with mesa right? and therefore, mesa cannot be directly responsible for overbooking.

JO is an ass and mesa does suck. I will not let my family fly on any mesa operated segments. period.

 

[AiRegency]

I especially liked the part at the end where she sued the b***ards. That's what more people need to do. Hit 'em where it counts, in the pocketbook. It's the only way to make things better, make the practice less profitable. Short of a change in legislation it's the only way.

 

[Av8rPHX]

The airlines (US,NW,DL,etc) are responsible for all of the reservations involving their regional partners. They have Yield Management departments that look at past trends for any particular day in the past year. They will use those numbers to determine the authorization level (how many seats can be sold) for a specific flight. So for example, lets say a PHX-TUS flight last Oct 17th was authorized to 96 out of 86 seats, but only 75 people flew the leg. They will take that number and not lower the authorization because based on their "trends" they can sell more seats. Now we all know sometimes this does not work out, much is the case around holidays where flights are commonly authorized over capacity and sell to authorization, hence your classic oversell. And yes, Mesa does suck. Almost hitting my 1 year of LAMA :beer: