G0-Jet Pay Scales

[fuelflow]

I think you got some bad information.

1st year pay - $56.00 / hr, which is the same as CHQ and Skywest, and higher than Mesa. The FO pay is roughly the same as other regional 1st year pay. Improvements will come whenever the contract is completed (probably one to two years).

The 60 hour guarantee is for training, goes to 70 hours for reserve and 74 hours for lineholders. The union just announced time and a half OVER guarantee for JA assignments and open time pick-ups.

Lines for May range from 14 to 18 days off. 10 to 11 days off for reserves.

I don't know what you mean by GJ not having a "flying certificate" yet. It's an "Air Carrier Certificate" and it was granted by the FAA about 7 months ago. Is your story your own or fabricated by what you've heard?

 

[temcgrew]

The union just announced time and a half OVER guarantee for JA assignments and open time pick-ups.

Great, that will be nice in two years once you get the contract, until then the abuse will continue. As for the days off, I guess the up and coming contract will stop scheduling from assigning your 24 hour overnight as a day off? you seem to be the only one that has anything good to say about g0jet, are you being paid extra to post here?

 

[fuelflow]

Days off are days off IN DOMICILE. And I'm not saying anything nice about the company. I doubt it's much different between us and you. It is what it is.

 

[redbook]

Days off are days off IN DOMICILE. And I'm not saying anything nice about the company. I doubt it's much different between us and you. It is what it is.

Dave, that statement is insane enough, that only you could have said it.

Why the hell did you go start an alter ego/whipsaw airline to be a pariah in the industry for not much different? It is what it is? WTF?

Hey, at least you are creating a magnet for all the scumbag pilots out there.

 

[goahead]

Days off are days off IN DOMICILE. And I'm not saying anything nice about the company. I doubt it's much different between us and you. It is what it is.

So why didn't you go to TSA and work for it like everybody else? You cut corners in life then I'm sure you cut corners in the cockpit. Cut corners lead to a ********************ty and painful death. Just so you know.

 

[temcgrew]

Redbook, I guess we don't always disagree.

 

[redbook]

Redbook, I guess we don't always disagree.

Yeah, I know. I think airjackson responded more appropriately to your post than I did in the other thread. I think the more the g0jet guys post, the quicker we (tsa and the rest of the industry) find out we are all in the same boat and on the same page, despite our differences.

I look forward to reading your future posts.

 

[PilotSkydiver]

Well I did my part

I'll let you guys know what the reply is...

Dear Mr. P#######,

My name is ##########, a UND Graduate and a former member of SAMA. It has come to my attention that you have invited Go-Jet Airlines, (A Division of Trans-States Holdings) to this years SAMA conference. I would like to inform you of some details about this airline of which you may not be aware.

In 2003-2004 the Trans-States airlines MEC was in negotiations with management over possible new flying with EMB-170 aircraft for the United Airlines codeshare, which ultimately fell through and the aircraft went to Chautauqua Airlines. Chautauqua and Trans-States both fly for American Airlines as American Connection. After Chautauqua started receiving aircraft it was brought to their attention they were in violation of the American Pilots (APA) scope clause of their contract, which states (paraphrasing) no subsidiary of AA or codeshare Partner of AA shall operate aircraft larger than 50 seats. After they were made aware of this they decided to create another airline for the EMB-170's and Republic Airlines was born. Chautauqua worked closely with their pilot group and through tough but fair negotiations they were successful in reaching a deal which would allow the pilot seniority list to be integrated with this new airline (and also subsequent airlines such as Shuttle America and Mid Atlantic). Having seen the problems at Chautauqua the Management at Trans-States Airlines decided to be proactive and Go-Jet Airlines was born.

Instead of working with the pilot group at Trans-States Airlines to come to a mutual agreement over seniority rights at this new airline the management team at Trans-States airlines decided that since this was a "totally separate" airline it did not have any obligation to honor our contract. (Our Contract Says in Section 1 in the section on scope "The Company shall not create an Alter-Ego to circumvent any section of this contract.") I am not a lawyer but the word company was weak and the NMB decided that the company was not Trans-States Holdings, but Trans-States Airlines. Trans-States Holdings continues to be a holding company only with no real offices and actually the business certificate was revoked by the state of Missouri in 2003 for not re-filing paperwork. Trans-States did make one offer to the pilot group in the form of concessions and a contract extension in which 75% of the voting pilots turned down. To this date no other offer has been proposed.

The University of North Dakota stands for integrity and honesty, not shady business practices and loopholes. I am proud to be a UND graduate, but when I hear about my university advertising and supporting Go-Jet Airlines I am dismayed. I urge you not to support Go-Jet airlines. Go-Jet was devised to get around contracts bargained in good faith and is a threat to the hard working pilots at Trans-States Airlines. Go-Jet is just another airline dedicated to the downward spiral of pilot wages and benefits. The absence of these will cause a decline in enrollment at UND and I do not wish for this to happen. I do realize that placement is a difficult job and I do not wish for our graduates to be jobless, however Go-Jet is not a good choice for our new graduates. I am confident that you will make the morally right and ethically sound decision.

Sincerely,


#########

 

[Windsor]

You wrote that to Ken P.? Nice. I'm in the process of talking to my buddy who's a lead inst. out there. I'm also passing on that this crap not only affects TSA, but has a ripple effect on the entire industry.

 

[QUAG]

I love it. Only one GJ supporter, or should I call it rationalizer, out this entire thread. There will be a few more of the "usual suspects" who chime in, but lets keep the numbers in our favor.....FU*CK G0JETS PILOTS. I could care less about management, it's become painfully obvious that management everwhere is out to get us, my beef is with the pilots....FUUUCCCKK G0Jets pilots.