Future of the Airline Industry

[SLFLYHI]

And right here is the problem with todays industry.
It continues to get worse and guys like this are still willing to shell out $100k for his ratings, accept sh*t wages all so he can say he flies a jet for a living. What a living it is. Try paying off your bills while making $17k a year.

Its guys like this that get through IOE, then bitch while sitting ready reserve because they are too good for it. Then bitch about how they have no money and claim they wouldn't have become a pilot if they knew this before they started their flight training....but they continues to stick around and take the abuse, and accept pay cuts because "What else am I going to do."
I've been looking for another job for the last two months. The first bite I get, I'm gone.
There are still a few of us out there that have too much respect for ourself and the industry to accept this ch*t lifestyle and the crap sandwich management hands down to us.

Bye bye, Rick. Maybe if you brought a little pride to your work you'd have made it. I mean, you've been b!tching about management since you couldn't make it at Chicago's finest flight training institution. Guess nobody should have expected more out of you.

T2S

 

[jmreii]

Airline industry expert Kit Darby discusses the cyclical downturn that we are experiencing and the fact that we’ve seen this before and know hiring will return. He also stresses that this is the time to begin flight training so that prospective pilots will be qualified to enter the market when hiring increases in the near future.

Video here. It's about 30 minutes long.

The airline industry will have a future, we just don't know what kind. Very few people under 70 or 80 years of age have seen a economy like the one we are presently in. If they say they have, they are in denial or they are a liar.

 

[DX Rick]

Bye bye, Rick. Maybe if you brought a little pride to your work you'd have made it. I mean, you've been b!tching about management since you couldn't make it at Chicago's finest flight training institution. Guess nobody should have expected more out of you.

T2S

And which institution would this have been?

 

[11thHour]

Of course Kit Darby would say this. That's what he does. That's how he makes his $$. I wouldn't put too much stock into it.

Interestingly enough, I was talking to a friend of mine this week who is on the faculty for an aviation program at a private university. He said that even now they have more people applying to the program than they can accept. I was surprised to hear that!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

And right here is the problem with todays industry.
It continues to get worse and guys like this are still willing to shell out $100k for his ratings, accept sh*t wages all so he can say he flies a jet for a living. What a living it is. Try paying off your bills while making $17k a year.

Its guys like this that get through IOE, then bitch while sitting ready reserve because they are too good for it. Then bitch about how they have no money and claim they wouldn't have become a pilot if they knew this before they started their flight training....but they continues to stick around and take the abuse, and accept pay cuts because "What else am I going to do."
I've been looking for another job for the last two months. The first bite I get, I'm gone.
There are still a few of us out there that have too much respect for ourself and the industry to accept this ch*t lifestyle and the crap sandwich management hands down to us.

Dude,
Just quit!
PBR

 

[Gr82Aviate]

If they were to close, however unlikely I would find another job.
Is there any job out there that does not have the risk of being lost?
And its not a fancy job, just look plenty of them out there.

I had 3 previous corporate flying jobs that I loved, and thought them very "unlikely" to close...right up until the day the boss told me they were selling the airplanes out from under me.

 

[CopilotDoug]

And which institution would this have been?

I think timetospare is referring to Palwaukee Flyers. I've heard he is related to the owner and that is why he keeps plugging for them. Heck...maybe he's an instructor for them. Premier? Far from what I've heard.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Dude,
Just quit!
PBR

PBR, the guy has a point. People keep lining up around the corner for lower pay. That won't bring pay up.

 

[siucavflight]

I had 3 previous corporate flying jobs that I loved, and thought them very "unlikely" to close...right up until the day the boss told me they were selling the airplanes out from under me.

Well I cant really give out to many details, but I really dont think this one is going anywhere. However if it does then I will take my lumps and move on, I am very content.

 

[ALIMBO]

Money is great an all but it means ******************** to me. I know im going back home with the parents for a year to pay off my loans. On top of it there is other jobs outside regionals. I have a good set of networks that can get me into better than 20k a year jobs. Plus I didn't pay 100k for my college career thanks to the air force for helping me out. If your so unhappy please leave your unhappiness brings the industry down. If its so bad do something about it or just leave.

 

[WayBack]

Money is great an all but it means ******************** to me. I know im going back home with the parents for a year to pay off my loans. On top of it there is other jobs outside regionals. I have a good set of networks that can get me into better than 20k a year jobs. Plus I didn't pay 100k for my college career thanks to the air force for helping me out. If your so unhappy please leave your unhappiness brings the industry down. If its so bad do something about it or just leave.

We are leaving. We're making all the room for the guys like you, where money means nothing. It's all about being happy!
You're happy. You're happy to to fly these airplanes for peanuts. And happy to bring down the industry.

 

[Slick]

Most of the fuelers at my local FBO have commercial multi tickets.

Livin' the dream, baby!

 

[ALIMBO]

We are leaving. We're making all the room for the guys like you, where money means nothing. It's all about being happy!
You're happy. You're happy to to fly these airplanes for peanuts. And happy to bring down the industry.

There is more to flying than the regionals. If your unhappy about your job find another. Otherwise you chose this career path. I never said I was going to go to a regional if I do I know what to expect and so be it I live with my choices.

 

[CX880]

There is more to flying than the regionals. If your unhappy about your job find another. Otherwise you chose this career path. I never said I was going to go to a regional if I do I know what to expect and so be it I live with my choices.

Oh dude, you have no idea. Although it seems like you're willing to fly for the regioanls for 5-10 years with low expectations so you're off to a good start.

 

[WayBack]

There is more to flying than the regionals. If your unhappy about your job find another. Otherwise you chose this career path. I never said I was going to go to a regional if I do I know what to expect and so be it I live with my choices.

Well I'm glad you've never flown for the regionals, or held a professional job as a pilot, but yet you know it all.
I'd love to have $1 for every guy I have met who is going coorperate or straight to the majors right out of college.

 

[ALIMBO]

Did I say I was going straight to corporate? You keep making all these assumptions about me yet you have no idea who I am. If I had a $1 for every person that's judged me on this website I'd be able to probably pay for half my flight training. You don't me so don't act like you do.

 

[ALIMBO]

Oh dude, you have no idea. Although it seems like you're willing to fly for the regioanls for 5-10 years with low expectations so you're off to a good start.

I don't know what you mean by your post please explain.

 

[CX880]

I don't know what you mean by your post please explain.

Dude, you just said:

1. Money doesn't mean ******************** to me.

2. I'm going to live with my parents for 1 year for loans.

3. I have friends who will help me get a better job.

4. I'm going to be a well paid pilot living the dream by age 30.

That's why I said, you have no idea and you come out on your posts as if you know it all. A few months of regional reserve will fix all that, preferably on another timezone.

 

[WayBack]

Dude, you just said:

1. Money doesn't mean ******************** to me.

2. I'm going to live with my parents for 1 year for loans.

3. I have friends who will help me get a better job.

4. I'm going to be a well paid pilot living the dream by age 30.

That's why I said, you have no idea and you come out on your posts as if you know it all. A few months of regional reserve will fix all that, preferably on another timezone.

I don't know one person who graduated from college, and their plan actually worked out to how they planned it.
You have friends who will help you get a good job? Very unlikely, because if your friends have a good job, he's going to keep it to himself.

 

[CX880]

I don't know one person who graduated from college, and their plan actually worked out to how they planned it.
You have friends who will help you get a good job? Very unlikely, because if your friends have a good job, he's going to keep it to himself.

Exactly although I wouldn't say they want to keep it to themselves, but they will never help you unless it's in their interest.