Future hiring of Skywesters

[joe_pilot]

Every time I start really leaning towards voting for alpa some asa toolbox comes up with a statement like this and pisses me off to the point of voting no out of spite....

Ok, you have me here, I'm with you...

I know GD well that major pilot groups don't even care about regional scabs and alter-egos...why would they worry about whether a regional that is in the top 20% compensation bracket votes in a union? That's right, they don't...

Maybe this is true, not sure...

I'll debate the merits all day long...BUT DON'T F*CKING TRY TO INTIMIDATE ME!

With you 100% here bro!!!!

I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ORGANIZED CRIMINALS! If I wanted to be part of that, I'd be a teamster and hijack delivery trucks on my days off.

huh??

COUNT ME AS ONE MORE CONFIRMED NO VOTE! And I'm going to call RIGHT NOW so I don't change my mind later!

That's insane!!

Ok, now listen; I'm just as pissed off as you are about the rhetoric FROM BOTH SIDES!!!! (Read my other posts on the topic) But to vote no because you're pissed at one side more than the other is ridiculous, wastes your vote and DOESN'T HELP OUR PILOT GROUP!!!

I'm not trying to tell you how to vote other than to VOTE SMART. They win if you vote because of emotion. Just think about it for a bit.

Put down the phone, stop reading FI for awhile, re-think the MERITS of both sides and make a good decision based on that. You're a fellow pilot of mine, I support your decision, just make it a decision based on something other than Flight Info BS, ok?

Fly Safe.

-JP

 

[joe_pilot]

So vote no. I really don't care what you think, "toolbox". It's your career.

And if this is the deciding factor for you, you're really more ignorant than I thought.

See my above post on this...

Hey John, been meaning to ask you, where was that picture taken?

 

[Grey Ghost]

or maybe they stopped hiring them because of the typical SkyWest macho attitude? Southwest hires on personality and nobody wants to spend 4 days with some know it all!!!!

 

[russtgol]

Jumpseating to work the other day on SWA and was able to chat with a "hiring board captain" and a SWAPA rep. His exact words were,

"Well we are carefully following the current Skywest ALPA drive. Our union feels that it would be in the best interest for Skywest to vote a union in. We have always really liked hiring from Skywest, and will probably continue to do so in the future, but my hands would be tied if our union and hiring board take a position to the fact that they are really starting to be known as an anti-union group. It may very well affect the hiring of them in the future, but I think it may be more a reducuction in interview numbers (of skywesters) and not necessarily the hiring percentage. I must admit that our actual hires out of Skywest has dropped as we have interviewed many and only a few were hired. We will have to see how the drive turns out, only time will tell on this one. I do strongly sugest that they do vote ALPA in, it can only help the hiring of them industry wide. Many boards are made up of pilots, the same pilots who want better QOL, work rules, pay and so on. It is in thier best interest to hire from a group a people that stand to uphold the same desires, and not from a group that will roll over to management."

I know some of you will flamebait this, but whatever, take it for what it's worth. I was there and I did not vote for union on previous drives, but I sure would right now. You have no idea what the security of a union feels like until you have it.

Yogi

Yeah your so full of $hit!!!!!!

 

[relief tube]

who cares

 

[BigLebowski]

dontfeedthebear...

You have lost it. I have nor will I ever be discriminated against because I am SkyWest. I can't even begin to tell you how rediculous this post is.

Newsflash...not voting for ALPA doesn't mean you're antiunion...you may just feel that the union will not benefit you. I have had a union rep tell me that I had valid reasons for not wanting to vote in a union here...no blacklist for me.

Hey...Let me guess; are you going to make another post on the majors board saying...
"I was jumpseating on UPS the other day and the Captain told me if USAir votes out ALPA that we won't be hiring anymore of them".

Get real guys.

 

[obadie]

or maybe they stopped hiring them because of the typical SkyWest macho attitude? Southwest hires on personality and nobody wants to spend 4 days with some know it all!!!!

We can agree on one point, Southwest does favor personality over less favorable attributes, such as, but not limited to stereotyping an entire company as “macho”. It is quite ignorant, insulting and presumptuous to refer to an entire group of pilots you have never met. Generalizing or not that attitude won’t get you very far in life. Least of all four days in the cockpit.

 

[CRJ2008]

This is just soo sad and offensively fake!!!!!!!!!

 

[txpilot1974]

Jumpseating to work the other day on SWA and was able to chat with a "hiring board captain" and a SWAPA rep. His exact words were,

"Well we are carefully following the current Skywest ALPA drive. Our union feels that it would be in the best interest for Skywest to vote a union in. We have always really liked hiring from Skywest, and will probably continue to do so in the future, but my hands would be tied if our union and hiring board take a position to the fact that they are really starting to be known as an anti-union group. It may very well affect the hiring of them in the future, but I think it may be more a reducuction in interview numbers (of skywesters) and not necessarily the hiring percentage. I must admit that our actual hires out of Skywest has dropped as we have interviewed many and only a few were hired. We will have to see how the drive turns out, only time will tell on this one. I do strongly sugest that they do vote ALPA in, it can only help the hiring of them industry wide. Many boards are made up of pilots, the same pilots who want better QOL, work rules, pay and so on. It is in thier best interest to hire from a group a people that stand to uphold the same desires, and not from a group that will roll over to management."

I know some of you will flamebait this, but whatever, take it for what it's worth. I was there and I did not vote for union on previous drives, but I sure would right now. You have no idea what the security of a union feels like until you have it.

Yogi

Nice try....

 

[siucavflight]

I dont believe any of this. SWA is much more concerned with their fuel hedges running out then if SKW voted down ALPA or not.

 

[doug_or]

dontfeedthebear...

You have lost it. I have nor will I ever be discriminated against because I am SkyWest. I can't even begin to tell you how rediculous this post is.

ever sit in the jumpseat on ASA?



And by the way.... if you vote against something... that kind of inplies you are against it. If your aren't against it, I'd recommend voting FOR it.

 

[Jmoney]

Discrimination....

dontfeedthebear...

You have lost it. I have nor will I ever be discriminated against because I am SkyWest. I can't even begin to tell you how rediculous this post is.

Newsflash...not voting for ALPA doesn't mean you're antiunion...you may just feel that the union will not benefit you. I have had a union rep tell me that I had valid reasons for not wanting to vote in a union here...no blacklist for me.

Hey...Let me guess; are you going to make another post on the majors board saying...
"I was jumpseating on UPS the other day and the Captain told me if USAir votes out ALPA that we won't be hiring anymore of them".

Get real guys.

Just ask Comair how many of their guys Delta has hired if you don't believe in discrimination. Comair would not let any furloughed Delta guys get onto their list after 9-11. Now Delta doesn't exactly have a love affair with them.

-We shall see.

 

[WWEfan]

Just ask Comair how many of their guys Delta has hired if you don't believe in discrimination. Comair would not let any furloughed Delta guys get onto their list after 9-11. Now Delta doesn't exactly have a love affair with them.

-We shall see.

Just what I was about to post. It may not be fair or even reasonable, but it is reality. It only takes about 6 months in the airline business to realize that this game is all about politics.

Good luck SKYW pilots.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Hey John, been meaning to ask you, where was that picture taken?

Mallory Square, Key West.

 

[joe_pilot]

Mallory Square, Key West.

Very nice. Hopefully with drink in hand.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Very nice. Hopefully with drink in hand.

Oh yeah. A drink and a hot flight attendant (the wife, actually).

 

[Stifler's Mom]

COUNT ME AS ONE MORE CONFIRMED NO VOTE! And I'm going to call RIGHT NOW so I don't change my mind later!

WOW, what an idiotic statement. Someboy on FI posts something that may or may not be true. Your panties get all wadded up and you're going to base your union vote and that alone?????

I would have pegged you as a Mesa pilot and not a SkyWest one.

 

[AWACO]

Tom Wycor, big in this SkyW ALPA drive, said himself "once we get SkyW in ALPA I am going to move on to get Southwest to sign up." Wonder how that will go over.

Tom himself has also implied I will not be able to move on to an union carrier unless we vote in ALPA at SkyW. Just go to show how desperate it is getting for them.

I am just glad to be getting back my previous few years of ALPA dues in the form of all those free lunches!

 

[flyboyike]

Jumpseating to work the other day on SWA and was able to chat with a "hiring board captain" and a SWAPA rep. His exact words were,

"Well we are carefully following the current Skywest ALPA drive. Our union feels that it would be in the best interest for Skywest to vote a union in. We have always really liked hiring from Skywest, and will probably continue to do so in the future, but my hands would be tied if our union and hiring board take a position to the fact that they are really starting to be known as an anti-union group. It may very well affect the hiring of them in the future, but I think it may be more a reducuction in interview numbers (of skywesters) and not necessarily the hiring percentage. I must admit that our actual hires out of Skywest has dropped as we have interviewed many and only a few were hired. We will have to see how the drive turns out, only time will tell on this one. I do strongly sugest that they do vote ALPA in, it can only help the hiring of them industry wide. Many boards are made up of pilots, the same pilots who want better QOL, work rules, pay and so on. It is in thier best interest to hire from a group a people that stand to uphold the same desires, and not from a group that will roll over to management."

That doesn't sound like something a guy would just say, it's more like a written memo. Also, are you saying you remembered it word for word? Or did you have one of those little recorders? I ask because there is no way I would have remembered that much verbatim and I'm well known for my near-photographic memory.

BTW, I make no comment on the contents of the statement, only on the validity of the introduction thereof as someone's "exact words".

 

[SkyNation]

BTW, I make no comment on the contents of the statement, only on the validity of the introduction thereof as someone's "exact words".

I'll comment!

It's just the latest in the tired ol' 'why I hate skywest and why skywest is the source of all my problems and skywest guys only think they have it good and skywesters are gonna get screwed any day now' diatribe that goes on here daily.

what a pile of crap. it's not supported with the past, present and future guys here who've gone on and will continue to go on to DAL, SWA, UAL, FDX, UPS, et al. This business, like most others, is often about who you know, not what lanyard you wear.

we have about 12 guys just in SLC alone now who are in the pool or awaiting class dates at SWA.

oh well, everyone hates a winner, right?