Future hiring of Skywesters

[doug_or]

dontfeedthebear...

You have lost it. I have nor will I ever be discriminated against because I am SkyWest. I can't even begin to tell you how rediculous this post is.

ever sit in the jumpseat on ASA?



And by the way.... if you vote against something... that kind of inplies you are against it. If your aren't against it, I'd recommend voting FOR it.

 

[Jmoney]

Discrimination....

dontfeedthebear...

You have lost it. I have nor will I ever be discriminated against because I am SkyWest. I can't even begin to tell you how rediculous this post is.

Newsflash...not voting for ALPA doesn't mean you're antiunion...you may just feel that the union will not benefit you. I have had a union rep tell me that I had valid reasons for not wanting to vote in a union here...no blacklist for me.

Hey...Let me guess; are you going to make another post on the majors board saying...
"I was jumpseating on UPS the other day and the Captain told me if USAir votes out ALPA that we won't be hiring anymore of them".

Get real guys.

Just ask Comair how many of their guys Delta has hired if you don't believe in discrimination. Comair would not let any furloughed Delta guys get onto their list after 9-11. Now Delta doesn't exactly have a love affair with them.

-We shall see.

 

[WWEfan]

Just ask Comair how many of their guys Delta has hired if you don't believe in discrimination. Comair would not let any furloughed Delta guys get onto their list after 9-11. Now Delta doesn't exactly have a love affair with them.

-We shall see.

Just what I was about to post. It may not be fair or even reasonable, but it is reality. It only takes about 6 months in the airline business to realize that this game is all about politics.

Good luck SKYW pilots.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Hey John, been meaning to ask you, where was that picture taken?

Mallory Square, Key West.

 

[joe_pilot]

Mallory Square, Key West.

Very nice. Hopefully with drink in hand.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Very nice. Hopefully with drink in hand.

Oh yeah. A drink and a hot flight attendant (the wife, actually).

 

[Stifler's Mom]

COUNT ME AS ONE MORE CONFIRMED NO VOTE! And I'm going to call RIGHT NOW so I don't change my mind later!

WOW, what an idiotic statement. Someboy on FI posts something that may or may not be true. Your panties get all wadded up and you're going to base your union vote and that alone?????

I would have pegged you as a Mesa pilot and not a SkyWest one.

 

[AWACO]

Tom Wycor, big in this SkyW ALPA drive, said himself "once we get SkyW in ALPA I am going to move on to get Southwest to sign up." Wonder how that will go over.

Tom himself has also implied I will not be able to move on to an union carrier unless we vote in ALPA at SkyW. Just go to show how desperate it is getting for them.

I am just glad to be getting back my previous few years of ALPA dues in the form of all those free lunches!

 

[flyboyike]

Jumpseating to work the other day on SWA and was able to chat with a "hiring board captain" and a SWAPA rep. His exact words were,

"Well we are carefully following the current Skywest ALPA drive. Our union feels that it would be in the best interest for Skywest to vote a union in. We have always really liked hiring from Skywest, and will probably continue to do so in the future, but my hands would be tied if our union and hiring board take a position to the fact that they are really starting to be known as an anti-union group. It may very well affect the hiring of them in the future, but I think it may be more a reducuction in interview numbers (of skywesters) and not necessarily the hiring percentage. I must admit that our actual hires out of Skywest has dropped as we have interviewed many and only a few were hired. We will have to see how the drive turns out, only time will tell on this one. I do strongly sugest that they do vote ALPA in, it can only help the hiring of them industry wide. Many boards are made up of pilots, the same pilots who want better QOL, work rules, pay and so on. It is in thier best interest to hire from a group a people that stand to uphold the same desires, and not from a group that will roll over to management."

That doesn't sound like something a guy would just say, it's more like a written memo. Also, are you saying you remembered it word for word? Or did you have one of those little recorders? I ask because there is no way I would have remembered that much verbatim and I'm well known for my near-photographic memory.

BTW, I make no comment on the contents of the statement, only on the validity of the introduction thereof as someone's "exact words".

 

[SkyNation]

BTW, I make no comment on the contents of the statement, only on the validity of the introduction thereof as someone's "exact words".

I'll comment!

It's just the latest in the tired ol' 'why I hate skywest and why skywest is the source of all my problems and skywest guys only think they have it good and skywesters are gonna get screwed any day now' diatribe that goes on here daily.

what a pile of crap. it's not supported with the past, present and future guys here who've gone on and will continue to go on to DAL, SWA, UAL, FDX, UPS, et al. This business, like most others, is often about who you know, not what lanyard you wear.

we have about 12 guys just in SLC alone now who are in the pool or awaiting class dates at SWA.

oh well, everyone hates a winner, right?

 

[theskyking]

I'll debate the merits all day long...BUT DON'T F*CKING TRY TO INTIMIDATE ME! I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ORGANIZED CRIMINALS! If I wanted to be part of that, I'd be a teamster and hijack delivery trucks on my days off.

Pretty funny. Guess what, I am a Teamster. IBT1108 which proudly represents the pilots at NetJets. Go check out my contract and quality of life. Might change your mind about unions and Teamsters.

As an ex OO, good luck guys. Whether this letter has merit or not (which I doubt), union membership has many advantages. With the diverse and talented group of guys that are at OO, a really strong MEC could be put together which could see both the company and the pilot group into a prosperous future.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I'll comment!

It's just the latest in the tired ol' 'why I hate skywest and why skywest is the source of all my problems and skywest guys only think they have it good and skywesters are gonna get screwed any day now' diatribe that goes on here daily.

what a pile of crap. it's not supported with the past, present and future guys here who've gone on and will continue to go on to DAL, SWA, UAL, FDX, UPS, et al. This business, like most others, is often about who you know, not what lanyard you wear.

we have about 12 guys just in SLC alone now who are in the pool or awaiting class dates at SWA.

oh well, everyone hates a winner, right?

They don't hate SKYW pilots, just azzwipes like you! You may even get on at an ALPA carrier, but you still gotta finish your prob year. I wonder where hellonewoman is now?, sweating his first year at CAL? All its gonna take is a couple of ALPA check airman to fish that turdd out of their punchbowl. You and him are the cancer that is rotting this industry, and I for one hope ALPA realizes this sooner rather than later and decides to do a radical a$$endectomy and start purging the ranks, of the likes of you and your $hiteating buddies. I for one don't care if you starve or just go missing into the mountains, you are the enemy and need to be removed from this field!
Fukk off and die!
eternally
PBR
P.S. Ask the large number of SKYW guys in the FAT domicile who were on the list and passed over for LUV. FAT is well known for its anti-ALPA stance in majority. It isn't how many that are on the hiring list it's how many are on the seniority list that counts.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I bet SkyWest pilots will have no problem getting hired at Virgin America and Skybus if they vote ALPA down.

 

[auspac]

I don't have any apps out, but Southwest would be high on my list. Everyone there seems to be happy to be there. Seems like a great work environment, as opposed to almost any legacy.

It does seem strange that they would be so eager for us to be ALPA. I seem to recall, not that many years ago, when Southwest was derided for bringing down the industry. They had some of the lowest 737 rates and "you flew your butt off." No pension there, no ALPA, why would you want to work for them? Due to a very smart management team and great employee attitudes, now look where they are. The highest 737 rates. I don't think their rates have really increased that much, but everyone elses rates have decreased dramatically. Still no pesion still no ALPA.

I see attitudes toward Virgin America and Skybus pilots to be similar to what the attitudes were to Southwest pilots about 6 years ago, i.e. bringing down the industry. It's funny (or vey sad) to see how things change. In ten years time will I be reading of some Skybus pilot accusing me of bringing down the industry?

 

[flyboyike]

I have a question for everyone here. Let me preface it by saying that personally I'm somewhat secretive and very reluctant to talk about company goings-on with outsiders.

That being said, am I incorrect to think that it would be inappropriate for a member of a hiring board to make statements of that nature in the open? After all, he seems to be admitting to a certain bias (if he did, in fact, say it). Now, I'm not so naive as to think that hiring boards are NOT biased, but are they not supposed to at least keep up appearances?

I don't work at Skywest, nor do I have an app at SWA, so this is more of a general query for me.