Furlough numbers for Comair

[dvmthwsvan]

Now that the displacement numbers are out there, are there any numbers out for how many are going to be furloughed?

Dave

 

[9rj9]

who knows....

... with 20-30 leaving a week I think it will be short lived if any. I bet they will be hiring next spring.

 

[jacko123]

Thats what everyone was saying at Eagle back in 2001. 300 pilots ended up on the street for some time.

 

[wrigley23]

Right now it looks like less than 200 but that's not considering voluntary furloughs and attrition. The seniority list they're using for the displacement is at least 4 months old. With the pay cut negotiations coming up more and more may bail.

 

[uncle]

The displacement bid (10/26) shows:

CVG CRJ CA 55
CVG CRJ FO 72
GSO CRJ CA 14
GSO CRJ FO 13
Total 154

I've heard there have been 50 pilots leave CA/FO's since the BK announcement. In otherwords, who the heck knows for sure??????

 

[Wacopilot]

As I have said the past three years, I encourage anyone senior to me to pursue better things. I think the grass IS greener on the other side......like JetBlue...oh wait......this just in, JB records first loss..............Crap! Does that mean that 90 seat RJ rates will be lowered yet again???? Don't worry, everything over 75 hrs is time and 1/2!

Sheesh............ Again, tell me why I wanted to be an airline pilot.

Waco

 

[FDJ2]

Are the active CMR pilots going to pitch in and pay the Cobra payments for furloughed CMR pilots?

 

[FlyComAirJets]

By lowering the line values and taking Company Offered Leaves of Absence (COLA) most, if not all, furloughs should be mitigated.

Longevity, sick time, vacation, and medical coverage will continue to accrue for the COLA people. Pay cuts will also have a wondrous effect on the staffing formula.

Just like at mainline Delta, right?

 

[FDJ2]

By lowering the line values and taking Company Offered Leaves of Absence (COLA) most, if not all, furloughs should be mitigated.

Longevity, sick time, vacation, and medical coverage will continue to accrue for the COLA people. Pay cuts will also have a wondrous effect on the staffing formula.

Just like at mainline Delta, right?

It's great to hear what management is doing to help mitigate furloughs at CMR, but the question still remains, what will the CMR pilots do to help their furloughed pilots? Will CMR pilots vote to assess themselves in order to cover the Cobra premiums of furloughed CMR pilots?

 

[Thedude]

Sorry to disappoint you but COLA in the rest of the world means " Cost of Living Adjustment".

 

[doh]

It's great to hear what management is doing to help mitigate furloughs at CMR, but the question still remains, what will the CMR pilots do to help their furloughed pilots? Will CMR pilots vote to assess themselves in order to cover the Cobra premiums of furloughed CMR pilots?

I haven't heard any thing about an assessment. I would support it, but how many people would be affected. I'm guessing not many. The junior folk only make 20K so they would actually get a raise at any other job. We shall see.

 

[doh]

Sorry to disappoint you but COLA in the rest of the world means " Cost of Living Adjustment".

That is confusing for me too! The rest of the world calls then LOAs. But then again, we have commissary instead of catering and exceptions instead of operations in CVG, so that's effed up to begin with.

 

[FlyComAirJets]

The question has been answered

It's great to hear what management is doing to help mitigate furloughs at CMR, but the question still remains, what will the CMR pilots do to help their furloughed pilots? Will CMR pilots vote to assess themselves in order to cover the Cobra premiums of furloughed CMR pilots?

The COLAs and reduced line values are "what will the CMR pilots due to help their furloughed pilots." On a short term furlough I thought it was federal law for the company to offer health care. If there are any long term furloughs, I certainly would advocate an assessment for COBRA (or even short term, for that matter).

That situation is down the road ... for now.

 

[Holy Shiite]

It's great to hear what management is doing to help mitigate furloughs at CMR, but the question still remains, what will the CMR pilots do to help their furloughed pilots? Will CMR pilots vote to assess themselves in order to cover the Cobra premiums of furloughed CMR pilots?

So how do you feel about your newly retired "brethren" getting their nice big fat lump sum and still keeping Delta Pilots furloughed and preventing upgrades by "contracting" themselves to continue flying the top of the pay scale aircraft??????????? Get your own house in order before you point the finger of shame at pilots that make less then most Delta Pilots pay in taxes. HS

 

[Bluto]

That is confusing for me too! The rest of the world calls then LOAs.

Of course, LOAs mean something different to us, too. What if the company and union agreed to an LOA that guarantees that LOA's would be offered prior to furloughs...would that be confusing? And shouldn't it be coloa? or does that sound too much like an alcoholic beverage?

 

[737 Pylt]

So how do you feel about your newly retired "brethren" getting their nice big fat lump sum and still keeping Delta Pilots furloughed and preventing upgrades by "contracting" themselves to continue flying the top of the pay scale aircraft??????????? Get your own house in order before you point the finger of shame at pilots that make less then most Delta Pilots pay in taxes. HS

With a comment like that, it can only be assumed you are uneducated!
The question was....Is cmr going to help its furloughed pilots with COBRA???
If you're going to pick a fight, you should come up with something better!
737

 

[FDJ2]

If there are any long term furloughs, I certainly would advocate an assessment for COBRA (or even short term, for that matter).

That situation is down the road ... for now.

I'm glad to hear that.

 

[Homer Jay]

This is one hell of a unified pilot group. I can guarantee, IF there are any furloughs, we will do everything possible to take care of them!

 

[ThisistheDream]

the cola for one week is at a rate of 2.73 hours a day... that week off is a 19.2 7 day trip..a sick call can take the place of that..

 

[JECKEL]

Dreamboat,

The COLAs are not about the money. They are an attempt by management/union to maximize the number of personnel on the payroll while working within a confined budget.

Trying to keep as many jobs as possible.

Sick calls cost the company money ... COLAs do not, get it.

 

[Hovernut]

The company has offered one year voluntary furloughs, where you'd retain pass benefits throughout, and still accrue longevity, but the insurance would run out after 3 months. I'd think people taking these would already have another job opportunity on the side ( I have a couple in the works) and wouldn't need any of their peers to help pay for COBRA. But, if they were involuntarily furloughed, I'd support any help we could provide. I'd certainly appreciate it if I were in that position.

 

[RichO]

The company has offered one year voluntary furloughs, where you'd retain pass benefits throughout, and still accrue longevity, but the insurance would run out after 3 months. I'd think people taking these would already have another job opportunity on the side ( I have a couple in the works) and wouldn't need any of their peers to help pay for COBRA. But, if they were involuntarily furloughed, I'd support any help we could provide. I'd certainly appreciate it if I were in that position.

In fact I believe most of the pilots who have talked to the chief pilot about getting a voluntarily furlough do indead have other stuff going on or other oportunities.....soooo.....would they really need the health insurance after 3 months?

 

[ChperpltII]

would they really need the health insurance after 3 months?

I would hope not.... When I left CMR, my COBRA letter came and they wanted $975 per month for my wife and I. WOW!!