Fuel prices up and Delta Saabs stay

[On Your Six]

Well as of this moment none of the companies have any furloughs, so that no longer is an issue.

If there were any at the announcement of the merger, they will likely be at the bottom of the list via arbitration.


OYS

 

[CptMurf]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

I doubt you would say the same if you were one of the furloughees.

 

[LearLove]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

So in another 10 to 15 years when you have 15 years at your company and they sell/merge your aircraft to a "partner airline", lay you off, give your job to a kid that is in the 6th grade right now, and "tac" you on to the bottom of the list it will be OK, right?

What goes around comes around.....

 

[AiRegency]

So in another 10 to 15 years when you have 15 years at your company and they sell/merge your aircraft to a "partner airline", lay you off, give your job to a kid that is in the 6th grade right now, and "tac" you on to the bottom of the list it will be OK, right?

Yep. Them's are the breaks. Welcome to the industry.

 

[DoinTime]

So in another 10 to 15 years when you have 15 years at your company and they sell/merge your aircraft to a "partner airline", lay you off, give your job to a kid that is in the 6th grade right now, and "tac" you on to the bottom of the list it will be OK, right?

What goes around comes around.....

So you think its fair for people who don't bring a job into a merger to get equal treat with those that do bring a job? Someone on here said it before, seniority integration is a fixed quantity. In order for one pilot to do better, someone else has to do worse.

 

[Yodafly]

The recall should not affect SLI. Its a snapshot on date of purchase. Any changes that happen after that point are not considered. AKA Colgan new hires changing the relative position of the colgan pilots for the better.

 

[callowayhd]

No offense to you, but furloughs deserve to be on the bottom of the SLI. It's the whole "career expectation" thing in arbitration. Like the Midwest Express guys who were furloughed were basically stapled to the bottom of the SLI at Republic.

Mesaba Airlines had a lot more career expectation than pinnacle. You should not be gloating about how pinnacle bought Mesaba and that they should be stapled. Furloughed or not there are many Mesaba pilots who went there over pinnacle because of career expectations. The flow through being the biggest factor in giving ALL Mesaba pilots higher career expectations than any other pinnacle pilot.

In an industry where oil is playing a huge role, who really saved who? Mesaba who is brining 41 crj900s with a Saab fleet that might not be as dead as everyone thought because of its fuel efficiency, or pinnacle who operates 120 or more crj200s which will be out the door ASAP. Even Colgan brings more opportunities for flying than pinnacle airlines with their Q400's.

Just because Pinnacle holdings shares the name with Pinnacle airlines, does not mean your airline bought Mesaba. Mesaba airlines, Colgan airlines and Pinnacle airlines, are all under the same holdings company, get off your pinnacle airlines high horse because they are bringing the most liability to the table with this merger.

Unfortunately large RJ flying in the future of the regionals, add to that turboprops that can replace 50 seat flying and Pinnacle airline pilots are lucky that they aquired both Colgan and MEsaba, not the other way around.

 

[altimaklr]

Ya except the 9E CR2's are some of the newest in the world and are under contract til at least 2018. When the last delta CR2 flight lands it will more than likely be a Pinnacle plane. Next?

 

[DoinTime]

Just because Pinnacle holdings shares the name with Pinnacle airlines, does not mean your airline bought Mesaba. Mesaba airlines, Colgan airlines and Pinnacle airlines, are all under the same holdings company, get off your pinnacle airlines high horse because they are bringing the most liability to the table with this merger.

Who bought Big Sky?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Who bought Big Sky?

Nobody, when Mair holdings failed to use them to bust the Mesaba union and contract, Mair simply sold off their assets and payed out the shairholders and ceased to exist.